Tavistock gender clinic ‘converting’ gay children

[NonnyMouse1337]

It's what we all knew but still upsetting to read.

Times article - www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tavistock-gender-clinic-converting-gay-children-tz8cs77p3

Archive link - archive.is/F3Z6m

Very upsetting. Thank you for posting.

Just read it, so upsetting

Transing the gay away. Awful this is why we fight - for these kids whose voices are not heard as they are swept along on this pathway.

That's really sad.

But I am a firm believer that we shouldn't meddle with hormones and gender 're assignment anyway

The archive link's not working for me, anyone got a share token?

I'm glad that this is coming out but that article is WRONG the Bell decision DID NOT ban puberty blockers in the UK only England and Wales, the Sandford clinic in Scotland is still prescribing them.

Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5e79e3d4-d110-11eb-8afd-f729c1c2ffd0?shareToken=6b6c153477b5095f442b793efe101f85

It is what we've been saying for years. Good to see it in print.

@Cabinfever10

I'm glad that this is coming out but that article is WRONG the Bell decision DID NOT ban puberty blockers in the UK only England and Wales, the Sandford clinic in Scotland is still prescribing them.

And it didn’t ban them, it said they could still get them if they could convince a judge they understood the 8 points of consent.

It is quite tough to read that. We knew it, but, I'm thinking about my DD's friends who have gone from apple cheeked, freckle faced toddlers to sullen teens in the blink of an eye. Three of her social circle are on testosterone. I'd not have been surprised if those kids had come out as lesbian and DD thinks it is now seen as shameful to be a lesbian, that it means you are denying the truth of your transgenderism.

god that's awful. in their rush to experiment on children they just ignored any inconvenient back stories, didn't they?

I really don't know how many times this needs to be said or written about for people to twig.

So many children have been failed it makes you sick to think about those poor kids

Thank you for the share token

There is a definite link between parental issues and homosexuality. Nobody likes to admit it however.

Thank you for sharing, I agree it's upsetting to read. I'd love to know how Stonewall are going to stand up in support of these LGB children given the information that is coming to light directly from psychologists (previously) working at the clinic.

Thank you. Upsetting, stark but very clear headline.

Well well well. If only someone had been pointing this out all along... oh wait, we were...

@Whatstheweatherlike
I wouldn't expect Stonewall to do anything as they can't even admit that homosexuality (ie same sex attraction) exists its same gender attraction now according to them

I agree and that's heartbreaking. Here we have professionals saying they are seeing LGB children coming to them having experienced bullying that must be so traumatic for them that they think changing their whole identity is the only solution. Why has this not been explored and challenged?

"Because gender identity has nothing to do with sexuality!!!"

(Insert rainbow emojis, gender unicorns etc).

It is true that the judicial review judgment did not ban the use of puberty blockers in under 16s. Firstly, it merely set a high bar to obtain consent, rather than imposing a ban; secondly, the judgment is not implemented, pending the appeal. But in effect it did temporarily halt the use of puberty blockers, because in response to the judgment, NHS England issued an emergency change to the service specification for GIDS which caused GIDS to halt referrals to UCLH while they undertook a review of existing contents.

It's interesting that they're using the word converting.

Conversion therapy is well understood in terms of homosexuality. But Stonewall were pushing for it to be applied to transgenderism. Which meant that you would have to affirm a child in their transgender identity lest you be accused of conversion therapy.

It would appear that no one is buying that application.

@rogdmum - do you have a link to the full statement?