School Video. Words just can’t convey...

[ConcreteUnderpants]

For all those who PM’ed and wanted me to put it on its own thread.
Here you go.

This is the video my year 6 watched at school (without any consultation with parents)
I’m just speechless.

They were also told about Robert/a Cowell and puberty blockers were mentioned, although I’m not sure of those details.

Head and deputy are the safeguarding leads at the school, so where do I start with the Governors? Overwhelmed.

@JustcameoutGC

Has everyone been contacted by their school on the RSE consultation? I am about to drop them a line but wanted to check where everyone else was.

I enquired and have been told the consultation will be soon (no date given).

The video seems to be catered to young kids but the language is too mature for them, while it's comprehensible to y6 kids, they would be bored stiff as it's so trite.

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/Transgender-Astroturfing.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiL96XVyuLwAhWnAGMBHVVJACEQFjABegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw09cnBTyplj_86kz-yWHK_D" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/Transgender-Astroturfing.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiL96XVyuLwAhWnAGMBHVVJACEQFjABegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw09cnBTyplj_86kz-yWHK_D

Certainly puzzling when the video says the doctors are wrong.

Yes, though not just puzzling, utterly dimwitted. Doctors don't 'assign the wrong gender'. They don't assign gender at all, they observe sex, which is and always will be binary. And contrary to some people's whataboutery, the existence of intersex issues does not change that. Why would anyone assign gender (aka sexist stereotypes) to a baby?

Sorry for the big link, I don't know how to post it properly. It links to a pdf explaining who is behind the trans ideology and how much money they have pumped into it over the last decade. All rich, white bill/millionaire males. Hence the big push for it.

As to why the video goes on about the T, the presenter says the other acronyms have been covered in other vids. I bet they were just as, ahem, 'factual'.

These are adult concepts, scientifically and biologically inaccurate being pushed at the youngest of children using techniques specifically designed to attract their attention and gain their confidence - the teddy bear, the kiddy voices, the sing song repetition of previous learned beliefs - pronouns, use of cis etc.

It's not OK and it's unethical to use these techniques to persuade little children that doctors can't identify sex characteristics. It's not inclusive to alienate children from facts and science. It's not OK to promote beliefs as facts to children. It's harmful.

The fact that there are teachers who can use this type of rubbish shows just how deep the indoctrination of some preferred beliefs in schools is.

And the fact that there are so many deletions on the thread that relates to safeguarding children from dreadful gaslighting videos like this demonstrates how desperate some are to silence women and men talking about this.

@stickygotstuck

Erm, that video is quite something! OP, it makes you wonder who in the school chose/approved this as a good idea.

About the PP who mentioned school policies. In the defence of parents', I think schools have so many policies for everything that it wouldn't even occur to the parents to ask. Until something like this crops up.

I often wonder about the kind of stuff school (Y7) is teaching my DC in PHSE or whatever it's called these days. Unless DC tells me, I have now way of knowing. I find that unsettling.

Are schools not consulting enough with parents? Too much? Not on the right things?

That video is appalling. Sorry if this has already been answered but is this something that will be used on the Jigsaw curriculum?

I think a lot of the problem is poor communication from schools, which affects all areas of education and interaction between the school and parents and makes it far more difficult when it comes to discussing policy.

My DC primary school has a website that isn't the most clear to navigate. They get in touch with us mostly by the Schoop app, with occasional updates from teachers on Seesaw which is more to do with our DC class work from time to time.

Schoop is the perfect form of communication for updates about booking school meals, reminders about non uniform day, school trips etc. IMO it's a really poor place to send out larger documents. Our school recently sent out their RSE curriculum over the Schoop app and it is awful trying to read it on a mobile phone. This just isn't appropriate IMO- this stuff is really important and shouldn't get lost in amongst the reminders to check lost property or whatever. I would actually prefer this kind of thing to come home as an actual physical document or at least by email. I kind of feel that they sneak stuff out on the app because people may be less likely to respond or more likely to forget, given it gets lost in amongst other communications.

Sometimes it feels like we are bombarded with information from our school and during the pandemic when I've been struggling with work, and as a single parent it has felt too much. Im annoyed with myself as I missed the deadline to comment on their planned changes to the curriculum but I was really poorly and then struggling to catch up with work. I'm still going to attempt to find out what the lesson plans around gender are and discuss with the school.

@SofiaMichelle

What a divisive propagandist piece of shit that video, and the presenter, is.

It's clearly designed to confuse young children into questioning their gender, and that of their siblings, on the grounds that a doctor might have been wrong!

I'm totally against this sort of bull in schools anyway but, Christ, at least describe it in a way that a child might understand someone decided for themselves that they want to be a different gender, not that it's purely because a doctor made a fucking mistake!

I would be absolutely raging at the Head if that was my child's school.

Thank god that Labour are finished in the UK. We can hopefully see the back of this bullshit that they gave so much air time to before long.

This, and the cutesy-wutesy presentation made me sick in my mouth.

No way is that aimed at 11yos. 5-8, max.

its deranged.

I would be furious op.

Agree. This is why we need more LGBT education in schools.

We need to breakdown stereotypes and let kids be kids. That includes letting trans kids be themselves.

Fabulous. We can agree on something. The first thing we can do to break down stereotypes and let kids be kids is not show them that video. Nothing in that video makes any sense unless you believe stereotypes are real. Nothing.

OP, why not just watch the video again with your DC at home, and explain your concerns? This will give you an opportunity to explode any myths you believe to be false.

It's a hugely complex & wide-ranging issue, and we've got to accept that kids and teens will be exposed to a plurality of views over their 13+ years of education. Trying to stifle a two-minute video, without discussing why you think it's problematic, will not help them.

Content aside (which is inaccurate for obvious reasons), year 6?? I'm imagining the horrified reaction of my y4 DD at being shown sing song Teddy videos even about something as straightforward as a maths topic. I can't imagine how anyone thinks this is an age appropriate way of addressing y6.

@yeahbutnaw

It's important to teach children to be tolerant and accepting.

That includes teaching them that LGBT people exist. As someone who was once an LGBT child, I'd have benefited greatly from knowing that I'm not "abnormal" and that there are others like me.

You are strawmanning.

I don’t understand why my message was deleted.

All I said was you would need to remove a child from the school system to be sure they weren’t being exposed to propaganda.

What part of that was controversial?

you used a word that we are not allowed to say.

I can't tell you what it is or I'll be deleted too.

it's a four letter word, begins with a c. Not the sweary one.

I'm glad mine isn't at school anymore either. Funnily enough he was easily able to understand that trans people exist without denying biological reality.

I'm sure teaching standards haven't sunk so low that schools don't have to resort to outsourcing such simple lessons to propagandists.

I'm sorry your son's school has failed him so badly OP, I hope you get a good response from them .

What does it rhyme with? I haven’t got a clue.

@EYProvider

I don’t understand why my message was deleted.

All I said was you would need to remove a child from the school system to be sure they weren’t being exposed to propaganda.

What part of that was controversial?

Oh its very hard to tell what youve done wrong

Did you accidentally use the biscuit emoji? Or say ‘bless’ or ‘yawn’ maybe?

(To be fair MNHQ are usually very good at explaining what you did wrong if you ask them

@EYProvider

What does it rhyme with? I haven’t got a clue.

Ooooh i know!

Rhymes with ....

Oh god my minds gone blank

Rhymes with Insult...maybe

The first question I'd be asking as a child is 'mummy, how do doctors assign gender then?' (I was a precocious child)

But this is clearly propaganda.

I had a post deleted for stating absolute facts about a particular organisation that operated in the 1970s. Everything I said was accurate, in the the mainstream public domain (it's even on Wikipedia, for heaven's sake) and has been widely discussed in the press.

I will bring up with MNHQ later, but it is tiresome to have such posts deleted.

The DfE have clearly stated it is not acceptable for schools to present biased, political information as the truth, nor allow political lobby groups access to their children, nor to allow them to tell them factual inaccuracies using the trusted platform of school and safe adults so that children assume they are being told the objective truth.

This is the same as any political or religious indoctrination. It is not acceptable to send in the Labour party to train them to vote Labour or the Church of England to explain about there is only one true faith and everyone else who thinks otherwise is wrong.

This has to be reported to the DfE. Repeatedly. And Ofsted. Basic failure of duty of care, and abuse of a position of trust. This is wholly unacceptable.