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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottish woman told would be charged for homophobic and transphobic tweets

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/05/2021 13:25

twitter.com/millar_marion/status/1396039074239164423?s=19

On Wednesday April the 28th 2021 I received a call from a PC Laura Daley from police scotland requesting i attend an interview for homophobic and transphobic tweets under the milacious communications act.

I was asked to attend that coming Friday, she told me I had to attend East Kilbride police station so I could be then transported to Cathcart police station in a police car because I would have to go to a police station where there is holding cells, I would be then processed, questioned and then most likely charged.

I told her I would not be attending any interview on that day especially with it being a bank holiday weekend because my autistic twins needed me and I was scared I would be held all weekend.

To this she told me she would attend my house with social workers for my boys.

I contacted a solicitor straight away and he was unable to get PC Daley so for the first bank holiday in May I sent my disabled twins away for fear of this officer carrying out this threat.

This absolute nonsense has been hanging over my head for a month, I can barely sleep
or eat and I still don't know what the offending tweet is, my new interview has been scheduled for Thursday the 27th May, I will find out what I am supposed to have said at that point and if I will be indeed charged, again at another bank holiday, I just want to say, anyone who knows me, knows I am not homophobic or transphobic, I am a hard working mummy who would fight to the end for the safety and dignity of women and girls and for my vulnerable twinnies.

If we sit back and do nothing we will regret it for ever. For this reason I will never
Wheesht.

#WomenWontWheesht

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334bu · 05/06/2021 18:53

Obviously the bat signal went out saying " Women getting above themselves again! "

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/06/2021 18:53

Although to be fair her crowdfunder was against their Ts and Cs

for the legal defence of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, serious disabilities or diseases, financial crimes or crimes of deception

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/06/2021 18:54

@IsabelleSE19

Does she still get the donated money or is it returned to donors?
Returned to donors
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334bu · 05/06/2021 18:55

"for the legal defence of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, serious disabilities or diseases, financial crimes or crimes of deception;"

So why is the " Embarrassing" doctor's page still up? Obviously ok to harass women?

FannyCann · 05/06/2021 18:57

Shocking.

Are crowd justice an alternative ( I always make sure I deduct the additional gift to CJ because of Allison Bailey).

Or could she just set up a PayPal account for direct digging? I'm sure I've seen others do the same?

Undersnatch · 05/06/2021 18:57
Shock
Nodal · 05/06/2021 18:59

Yep, I'll be doubling my donation when this, inevitably, is out back up somewhere else. I'll happily send it straight to the law firm she's using.

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 05/06/2021 18:59

Whatever she sets up I will dig for. Flowers

Artichokeleaves · 05/06/2021 18:59

The whole point of the case is that 'hate' is so debatable it's silly.

Paypal, Marion. These sites are just too under the thumb to bother with any more. Fair access will never be permitted.

MidClrgs · 05/06/2021 19:00

Bloody hell.

This is what hatred looks like. This is what persecution looks like
Not stickers and a scarf and a few wrong pronouns.

Marion, if you are reading this do not fear. We've all got your back and we will not let this setback stop us from carrying you through this.

FannyCann · 05/06/2021 19:01

Are go fund me payments monitored in anyway re eventual use of funds? I seem to remember a new mattress scandal so presumably not?

I'm just thinking if the go fund me was for setting up a haberdashery shop and it went on legal fees instead would there be consequences?

MidClrgs · 05/06/2021 19:02

@FannyCann

Shocking.

Are crowd justice an alternative ( I always make sure I deduct the additional gift to CJ because of Allison Bailey).

Or could she just set up a PayPal account for direct digging? I'm sure I've seen others do the same?

I think PayPal might have some restrictions on the amount of money that can be transferred without incurring tax questions. Might be wrong though.
FOJN · 05/06/2021 19:02

I wondered what they would do when it was reported as it was sure to be.

I'll be doubling my donation too when Marion sets up an alternative.

Absolute fuckers.

FOJN · 05/06/2021 19:05

Are go fund me payments monitored in anyway re eventual use of funds? I seem to remember a new mattress scandal so presumably not?

Nice idea but I suspect one of our "friends" would donate 50p and then report Marion for fraud.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 05/06/2021 19:08

I donated & they haven't had the courtesy to email me & say they'll be refunding me. Did I read it takes up to 10 days to get the money back? I'm really glad I set the slider for fees aaaaaaall the way back to zero - do they refund fees, for those that paid up?

Artichokeleaves · 05/06/2021 19:09

Ok Marion. Start an online shop. Sell a small item. Invite customers to pay what they feel the item is worth. It's commonly done. I would be very happy to pay handsomely for, oh, say a paperclip or a freezer bag label. The word can be widely spread.

PronounssheRa · 05/06/2021 19:13

@manatsu

They do know that every time they pull something like this, we get angrier and more people get fed up with it all, right?
No, despite this happening with Allison Bailey before, they still don't get that this just increases awareness, anger and donations.

I hadn't donated yet, but as soon as I know where to send money I'll double my original planned donation.

BreakingtheIce · 05/06/2021 19:13

This is terrifying.

Datun · 05/06/2021 19:14

@manatsu

They do know that every time they pull something like this, we get angrier and more people get fed up with it all, right?
This.

And the scare tactics and intimidation strategy won't work. There are plenty of people, like Harry the Owl, and Posie Parker, who don't give a flying fuck. In fact, they actively seek out those tactics in order to expose them. It's their MO.

And yes, if Marion wants to give her bank account number, I'll transfer the money straight into her personal account.

NecessaryScene · 05/06/2021 19:15

for the legal defence of alleged crimes associated with...

How does that make any sense, legally speaking? Certain crimes are too heinous for someone to defend themselves against?

KimikosNightmare · 05/06/2021 19:17

@334bu

"for the legal defence of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, serious disabilities or diseases, financial crimes or crimes of deception;"

So why is the " Embarrassing" doctor's page still up? Obviously ok to harass women?

Mrs Foster's action was a civil suit. He was never charged with any crime.
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/06/2021 19:17

@NecessaryScene

for the legal defence of alleged crimes associated with...

How does that make any sense, legally speaking? Certain crimes are too heinous for someone to defend themselves against?

And it doesn't allow for malicious prosecutions etc...

I really hope one of Marion's supporters can advise her of a bombproof way to get the money.

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Triphazards · 05/06/2021 19:18

@334bu

"for the legal defence of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, serious disabilities or diseases, financial crimes or crimes of deception;"

So why is the " Embarrassing" doctor's page still up? Obviously ok to harass women?

Dr Christian's libel wasn't a criminal case.
KimikosNightmare · 05/06/2021 19:21

@NecessaryScene

for the legal defence of alleged crimes associated with...

How does that make any sense, legally speaking? Certain crimes are too heinous for someone to defend themselves against?

You'd be happy with a go fund me for rapists or paedophiles then? Or for the bloke who made threats to Joanna Cherry?

There's no legal right to have access to go fund me.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/06/2021 19:21

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