I've turned my husband and he's turned his employer

[Umpteenthiteration]

I've been banging on for the past three years or so about what is happening with gender ideology and how damaging it is to conflate sex and gender (whatever the heck 'gender' is). Husband has nodded along and make positive noises but didn't really seem to get it. But this morning he informed me that having been involved in a consultation at work about proposed plans for a diversity and inclusion day he made it clear that they needed to replace 'gender' with 'sex' as they were two completely different things. We're talking a major global organisation here and he was giving feedback at country-level. Go him!

The conversations we have with people do make a difference.
He's been radicalised by Mumsnet by proxy.

As you were

A friend is a bit of an embarrassing conspiracy theorist about Covid and the government using it to control us. Last time we met I was ready for her ranting and got in first with my views on the trans question. She went away and read up and found parallels between her beliefs about Big Pharma and the trans issue. One of the people she is convinced is influencing government about COVID is also a part time cross dresser. She gets it, although perhaps not in the way I intended!

Here's my deleted post with the "offensive" part replaced with the word turned.

I've turned most of my family. Had a quite heated argument with my sister over mixed sex toilets. She then obviously went away and did some reading and now sends me articles from for women Scotland. 😂'

I asked at a national meeting this week what the definition of 'woman' was for our new provider of services for vulnerable women and did it include people with penises as that would give me cause for concern. Contract provider lead was challenged directly and made to confirm it was female sex only spaces and services and I have received so many emails and messages of support. I work in the public sector where some people put pronouns' on their email (not company policy but not told to remove them) and it can be seen as risky to have a 'political opinion'. It really feels the tide is turning 😁

Wow you’re brave @KingdomScrolls

I work in a university and I suspect I’d get complaints leading to a disciplinary investigation if I asked that in a public meeting.

I work in the justice system we work with incredibly vulnerable women almost all of whom have experienced trauma at the hands of a man. It's really important that's remembered and their safety and will being is protected. I have no issue with separate services being provided for trans men and trans women.

Bravo KingdomScrolls. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

OP glad of the success you have had and your husband being supportive. Every success like this is a step forward.

to you all!

I just remembered I did get through to my husband a bit more recently when I told him of 'Gabrielle' Ludwig. A 6ft 8" transwomen in his/her 50's who not only identified as a woman, but as a18-21 year old woman. (I wish I could!!!)
He was a mediocre basketball player turned coach, well past his prime who managed to get a some poor girl's scholarship to a university on the girl's junior basketball team. And despite owning his own home near the campus, he also nabbed himself a place in the girl's dorms. Not only did he have to become a young woman, he had to force his way into their girl's only dormitories when he didn't actually need to either.

Just looking at the photos of the tall, well built, stocky ex navy transwomen standing next to a bunch of much smaller, young women made my DH say, "Oh no, that's not on!"

He's getting it, slowly.

I was away with a group of friends, one of whom is a transwidow, and we were discussing gender ideology and one friend was very quiet and looked a bit uncomfortable. Later the TW friend commented on it discreetly to me and said "M" didn't look that comfortable, let's not discuss that again for this holiday.

Next time we saw "M" she went on a total rant about the misogyny of gender ideology!! Again we had obviously piqued an interest and she'd gone away and done some reading.

@Huckleberries73

I sadly have to write some of the bloody policies, but I write the trans ones, and then demand the same paid time off and counselling and leeway for women in the menopause policy I then demand.... citing that without it, they are only catering for one protected characteristic.....

So getting some really good women’s policies on the back of this bullshit.

What "one" protected characteristic are they catering for, aside from women? @Huckleberries73

"Gender reassignment" is also a protected characteristic. And the Equalities Act requires that there isn't a hierarchy of protection. Even if gender ideology extremists demand that "trans" is the most oppressed minority evah.

This is why the EHRC decision, and the University of Essex report, are such a welcome announcements of sanity and legal reason.

I had a look at Gabrielle Ludwig, recognised the photos from past threads, then something struck me:

The photos of the girls who play on a team with transwomen seem far happier than the photos of the girls who lose when in competition against transwomen.

Is it really that simple? We like you when you help us win, but not if you beat us? Is no one thinking about the girl who lost her place because of Gabrielle?

girls who play on a team with transwomen seem far happier than the photos of the girls who lose

I can't speak for that situation - there have been reports of sports teams where dissent is not tolerated and would be a shortcut to losing a place on the squad for speaking out.

I don't know if this is something that Emma Hilton will address in her discussion on The Mess We're In 26 May 2021 on YouTube.