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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman's Hour today (Monday) discussing the change back to single sex toilets

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nauticant · 17/05/2021 10:04

They're requesting texts and emails for the discussion later on in the programme.

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IvyTwines2 · 17/05/2021 18:27

@SmokedDuck

There's at least one theatre which has kept the women's single sex and made the men's 'gender neutral'. This also solves the problem of the interval queue, typically much longer for the women's than the men's in theatres with single sex toilets. Now, those who feel comfortable sharing a space can use the mixed sex / gender neutral toilets, while those of us who don't can use the women's.

The assumption with this however is that no men care about privacy from women in the toilets, which is certainly not true.

Yes, I think most men dislike the idea of women coming in to the gents too, though in mixed sex toilet venues I've visited, I've never seen women going into the toilets with urinals unless there's no other option because, aside from the safety aspect, they're generally rank. Men do merrily use the 'cubicles only' though, outnumbering women at one theatre venue I visited before lockdown, even when there was a 'cubicles and urinals' block right next to it.

In the theatre example I cited it was an old building and I presume on a limited budget, and I could see it being a useful arrangement temporarily in somewhere like the Donmar Warehouse where they have a tiny number of toilets and a huge queue for the women's, but the better option would of course be to design all venues with women's sex-specific needs in mind, which at present very few do.

nauticant · 18/05/2021 09:34

Today's Woman's Hour at 10am:

Women spies; Second chances; Lisa Keogh; Home abortion rules

Note the third topic.

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peadarm · 18/05/2021 10:58

@nauticant

Today's Woman's Hour at 10am:

Women spies; Second chances; Lisa Keogh; Home abortion rules

Note the third topic.

They broadened it out into free speech and avoided discussion of the central question - which you'd think might be important to a programme called "Woman's Hour". Emma Barnett seemed to take the tack that Lisa would've known she should have kept her head down.

They also seem to have decided not to read out any listener messages dealing with it as a woman's issue.

SpindleWhorl · 18/05/2021 11:05

That's Emma Barnett's take - that Lisa should have stockholmed better?! Ffs.

Mollyollydolly · 18/05/2021 11:25

I used to really like Emma on 5 Live. That Interview with Lisa has pissed me right off. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious. Giving her pushback for stating material reality. Can they really not see how ridiculous they look. Suppose I should be grateful they didn't have Stonewall on telling us what to think.
Really annoyed, Lisa was great though, so calm and sensible.

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