He/Him

[Tibtom]

First time I have had someone reply with this after their name. I know the whole pronouns business so perhaps it is a surprise it has taken until now. But the thing that struck me is it is not a neutral statement; it comes across as a stamp of authority/control. We live in a sexist society where is it acknowledged additional supports need to be in place for women. Yet here we are in a situation where men proclaim their status in their emails. "I am male, I am from the oppressor class, I am your lord and master"

Is this just me?

Nope. It makes my hackles raise for the same reason.

Not just you. That's how I feel too.

work in a woke sector so lots of the bepronouned. I roll my eyes and think less of the organisation they work for that they make people do it

I agree, it really isn't a neutral statement.

@Kit19

work in a woke sector so lots of the bepronouned. I roll my eyes and think less of the organisation they work for that they make people do it

Yes it made me think less of them too.

Yup. Territorial pissing from misogynistic ‘allies’ who already loved a bit of gender stereotyping in their own lives, in my experience.

Territorial pissing, exactly this.

My husband noticed this on someone's work email the other day. Also had photo attached, bearded man called Dave. Husband said "I think I could have taken a good guess at he / him". I told him not to jump to conclusions.

It's being done by women as well though - ending their emails with she/her.

Also on LinkedIn, on people's profiles.

So not just a male thing.

Yes, it's more often done by women and MTF trans people. That's not the point.

It's not widespread but after a happy 20 years in the non-woke private sector, I started working with a third sector organisation and they all do it.

I counted my 1000+ linkedin contacts and about 6 have them in their profile. It's always young women who work in PR/HR.

I've yet to see anyone with a seriously senior career and profile do it.

I am male, no one will mistake me for female. If my work ever asks me to add pronouns, I'm torn between

Hee/haw

or insist on

MyMaster / MyMaster

as I am a follower of the Jedi religion.

It's so weird to put he/him for a start. Who the hell is a he/her or a she/him?

I am missing the point somewhat and also answering my own question because what plonker is going to write under their name "Man/lord and master/you will obey" or whatever claptrap they choose.

Yours sincerely,
Fromage

Person/feeling peckish but I don't know what I want/no, you fuck off.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Yes, it's more often done by women and MTF trans people. That's not the point.

What is the point then?

The point is, that when done by men, it feels like territorial pissing...

But I also roll my eyes and think it smacks of attention seeking. I see the point if your name is unusual, or not a common British-ish name that many people wouldn't know is a traditionally male or female name, or you have a unisex name.

But fgs. Just fgs. How am I showing support for the transgender community but emphasising I am a woman and thus contributing to bias?

I read all these signatures as he/him/twit. She/her/eejit. They/them/get over yourself.

This is spreading like wildfire in my wokeplace. Until recently it was definitely the hallmark of younger female colleagues in email signatures. One of these has clearly been lobbying senior colleagues because now almost all the male, older, more senior colleagues have done this. And it is seriously jarring. Would they put

I AM A MAN. BOW DOWN BEFORE MY PATRIARCHAL AUTHORITY.

at the end of their emails? No obviously not, despite that being one very obvious reading of (he/him) in the email signature. And actually I think this is worse. These senior men are doing this with no actual thought at all. It’s just the “kind” thing to do. They know this because a slightly more junior female colleague has told them that.

None of the equivalently senior female colleagues in our workplace have done this. That gives me some hope; I almost read this as a covert signal of not swallowing gender ideology wholesale. It’s just all so weird, like living in The Handmaid’s Tale. Under his eye.

And yes, there is an element of territorial pissing. LOOK, I AM A MAN.

It is mostly certainly not a neutral statement.

I am a Proud He/Him and I Will Tell You If I Don't Approve of Your Feminism or What Rights You Think You Should Have.

Women/shut/up/
Happy/I/can/say/this/so/publicly/now

I've yet to see anyone with a seriously senior career and profile do it.

I've seen very senior people in the voluntary and charity sector provide their pronouns even in Zoom names/Twitter bios as well as emails. Plus, the NHS.

@FKATondelayo

It's not widespread but after a happy 20 years in the non-woke private sector, I started working with a third sector organisation and they all do it.

I counted my 1000+ linkedin contacts and about 6 have them in their profile. It's always young women who work in PR/HR.

I've yet to see anyone with a seriously senior career and profile do it.

I've got the Head of Diversity at Network Rail on my LinkedIn (remember the JKR billboard fiasco?) and she's included she/her in her title.

Director of diversity actually.

I'd presume that the person doing it was either making a point that they support choice regarding pronouns (why would you assume I identify as a man if I don't tell you?) or making the reverse point (how ridiculous is this pronoun thing!)