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New CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis

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TheFleegleHasLanded · 03/05/2021 11:00

I struggled to even come up with a title for this thread as I am so enraged I know I will get deleted and even banned if I say what I really think.

twitter.com/EdinRapeCrisis/status/1389112490215288832?s=20

New CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/08/2021 00:38

Apologies FOJN, you made exactly the same point!

R0wantrees · 14/08/2021 09:34

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I believe the gender reassignment General Occupation Provision in recruitment

There is no such thing. It is single sex.

Wadwha was employed by Shakti Women's Aid in 2005 a year after the GRA so before the Equality Act (2010). Single sex occupational exceptions had been previously covered by The Sex Discrimination Act 1975.

The Sex Discrimination (Gender Reassignment) Regulations 1999
Margaret Hodge Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State Department for Education and Employment
25th March 1999
(extract)
"Exceptions for genuine occupational qualifications
4.—(1) After section 7 of the 1975 Act (exception where sex is a genuine occupational qualification) there shall be inserted the following sections—

““Corresponding exception relating to gender reassignment.”
7A.—(1) In their application to discrimination falling within section 2A, subsections (1) and (2) of section 6 do not make unlawful an employer’s treatment of another person if—

(a)in relation to the employment in question—
(i)being a man is a genuine occupational qualification for the job, or
(ii)being a woman is a genuine occupational qualification for the job,
and
(b)the employer can show that the treatment is reasonable in view of the circumstances described in the relevant paragraph of section 7(2) and any other relevant circumstances. (continues)

Regulation 4 inserts new sections 7A and 7B into the 1975 Act. Section 7A disapplies section 6(1) and (2) of the 1975 Act in certain circumstances. It is not unlawful to discriminate on the grounds of gender reassignment where a person’s sex is a genuine occupational qualification for that job and the employer can show that his treatment of the person is reasonable in view of section 7(2) or any other relevant circumstances. Section 7B disapplies section 6(1)(a) and (c) and section 6(2)(a) and (b) in specific circumstances where sex is a genuine occupational qualification. These circumstances are supplementary to those set out in section 7(2) of the 1975 Act. Regulation 4 also makes provision for similar amendments with respect to genuine occupational qualifications in section 9 and section 11 of the 1975 Act (discrimination against contract workers and those in partnerships with others).

(2) Subject to subsection (3), there is a supplementary genuine occupational qualification for a job only if—

(a)the job involves the holder of the job being liable to be called upon to perform intimate physical searches pursuant to statutory powers;
(b)the job is likely to involve the holder of the job doing his work, or living, in a private home and needs to be held otherwise than by a person who is undergoing or has undergone gender reassignment, because objection might reasonably be taken to allowing to such a person—
(i)the degree of physical or social contact with a person living in the home, or
(ii)the knowledge of intimate details of such a person’s life,which is likely, because of the nature or circumstances of the job or of the home, to be allowed to, or available to, the holder of the job;
(c)the nature or location of the establishment makes it impracticable for the holder of the job to live elsewhere than in premises provided by the employer, and—
(i)the only such premises which are available for persons holding that kind of job are such that reasonable objection could be taken, for the purpose of preserving decency and privacy, to the holder of the job sharing accommodation and facilities with either sex whilst undergoing gender reassignment, and
(ii)it is not reasonable to expect the employer either to equip those premises with suitable accommodation or to make alternative arrangements; or
(d)the holder of the job provides vulnerable individuals with personal services promoting their welfare, or similar personal services, and in the reasonable view of the employer those services cannot be effectively provided by a person whilst that person is undergoing gender reassignment. (continues)
www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/1102/made

ScreamingMeMe · 14/08/2021 12:35

[quote R0wantrees]'Mridul Wadhwa, SACRO and the £1.4 million contract
Shocking new developments in the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Scandal'

by JL

Wadwha's "partner was, until a few months ago, the director of a company which hoovered up the lucrative million pound contracts when these women’s services were cut off from public funding because of their female-only policies."
grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/mridrul-wadha-sacro-and-the-14-million[/quote]
I felt sick to my stomach reading that.

NachoBabe · 16/08/2021 11:04

The survivors at ERCC are furious - Mridul didn’t ask or inform any of them before going and touting the book they’d written, ‘Rising Free’, in the tackiest way online on The Guilty Feminist.

They’re crowdfunding to sue on copyright grounds. Any advice appreciated.

If anyone wants more details then dm me - I’ve joined MN today after years of lurking bc this has got my goat.

Rhannion · 16/08/2021 16:01

@NachoBabe

The survivors at ERCC are furious - Mridul didn’t ask or inform any of them before going and touting the book they’d written, ‘Rising Free’, in the tackiest way online on The Guilty Feminist.

They’re crowdfunding to sue on copyright grounds. Any advice appreciated.

If anyone wants more details then dm me - I’ve joined MN today after years of lurking bc this has got my goat.

There are lots of groups you can join to help rise awareness of this and many other issues. It’s worth joining Twitter for links and info.
Rhannion · 16/08/2021 16:06

It’s all sickening and disgusting when you join the dots and follow the money. The cronyism, the back room dealings, the lack of a back bone when it comes to the press and many politicians, the misogyny and hypocrisy of many is truly shocking It’s war on the rights of women and children in Scotland and that’s not me being melodramatic.

WeAreTheWomen · 16/08/2021 18:41

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Hedgehogdetective · 19/08/2021 08:10

Is there a organisation we can contact or consult about the fact that Mridul delivers/has delivered counselling in a professional setting when they have no formal qualifications? Particularly counselling to rape and sexual abuse survivors. Her husband also got her to provide counselling to his employees in his workplaces - total conflict of interest

Fleek · 19/08/2021 09:01

@Hedgehogdetective

Is there a organisation we can contact or consult about the fact that Mridul delivers/has delivered counselling in a professional setting when they have no formal qualifications? Particularly counselling to rape and sexual abuse survivors. Her husband also got her to provide counselling to his employees in his workplaces - total conflict of interest
I don't think anything at all. Which is so depressing. Anyone can call themselves a counsellor, psychologist or therapist. You could set up tomorrow in this field and charge whatever you want doing so. If Mridul isn't claiming to be part of any particular organisation like BACP or lying about their training, then technically there's nothing wrong with Mridul working with extremely vulnerable people.

It is sickening an actual rape crisis organisation would employ someone who has no formal qualifications and it says a lot that this alone isn't a concern to them. They deserve to be roasted for putting vulnerable women at risk. I suppose they're working largely with people without the resources to turn around and sue them if Mridul does any damage.

catzwhiskas · 19/08/2021 15:11

Is this person still in post? Why?

Rhannion · 19/08/2021 15:13

@catzwhiskas

Is this person still in post? Why?
Because that person is very pally with Sturgeon, Harvie and other dubious characters.
Perpetualnamechanger · 14/09/2021 11:41

I'm adding some articles to this thread, including Legal Feminist's analysis:

legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/09/12/fostering-good-relations/

Perpetualnamechanger · 14/09/2021 11:43

And Jo Bartosch's interview with a trauma survivor:

thecritic.co.uk/reframe-your-trauma/

Perpetualnamechanger · 14/09/2021 11:50

And finally I spoke to Glinner about my own experience, I mentioned it on page 19 of this thread, I often share his article "The Fox In The Henhouse" and contacted him when I was angry about Wadha calling rape victims bigots on the Guilty feminist podcast.

I cannot believe Wadha has been able to keep the job.

When they say this scandal has not stopped anyone receiving counseling, this is not true.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/why-one-victim-of-rape-will-not-be

NecessaryScene · 14/09/2021 11:52

Jean Hatchet Twitter thread:

Am in a meeting with Mridul Wadwha. Already want to scream at the things being said by organisers

Perpetualnamechanger · 14/09/2021 11:53

I was actually reading Jean's thread, which is why I posted.

The whole situation makes me mad.

Perpetualnamechanger · 14/09/2021 11:54

Thank you for sharing it here.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/09/2021 11:58

@NecessaryScene

Jean Hatchet Twitter thread:

Am in a meeting with Mridul Wadwha. Already want to scream at the things being said by organisers

Just looked at the thread, and I recommend everyone else does too. Unfortunately Jean Hatchet has now been kicked out for asking about single-sex services / Equality Act Hmm
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/09/2021 12:05

Thread unrolled here:

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1437714100742656002.html

Wadhwa talks about "cleansing" ERCC of transphobia...

Datun · 14/09/2021 12:09

Dear god.

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 14/09/2021 12:18

Vile. Just vile. The mask is fully off now, they couldn't give a shit about rape victims. It's all about trans.

The end goal is "re-educating" women to accept gender ideology completely and if they won't do it they'll deny them service.

cleansing indeed, fucking sinister Angry

The CEO of a rape charity is basically saying there should be no male free spaces to rape victims ffs!!

I've said this before, they are using their professional role for personal gain, and for this they should be fired. Why hasn't this happened yet? WHY??

PatsArrow · 14/09/2021 12:18

That thread of Jeans is utterly terrifying. Seriously, some days I'm so so scared of this shit (in between despair snd anger!)

prudencepuffin · 14/09/2021 12:27

This is a person very determined to hang onto their power base and not too worried about clearing everything from their path that might get in the way. There will NEVER be any listening to other points of view from a person like this.

OvaHere · 14/09/2021 12:30

Just read Jean's thread.

Horrifying. It's dystopian, male supremacy level stuff that is going to force all female focused support back underground setting us back by decades (as if that wasn't always the purpose!)

NecessaryScene · 14/09/2021 12:33

Who actually is in charge here? Who is responsible for keeping this vile individual in post?

Someone needs their feet held to the fire and to have to answer questions about everything Wadhul says - make them own it and say whether they support it.

Follow the chain of support all the way up, as far as it takes, and take down every person supporting it.

Swipe left for the next trending thread