Throwing women's sport under the bus

[andyoldlabour]

Former US soccer player sees no problem in allowing male bodied people competing in women's sport. Lori Lindsey says that it would help their mental health, and that anyone who opposes this is a white supremacist.

dailycaller.com/2021/04/24/former-us-soccer-player-lori-lindsey-banning-transgender-athletes-upholds-white-supremacy/?

It won't be happening in Florida, or other States who have brought new Laws in to protect womens sports.

She just likes to be controversial. Its all rather boring.

It is so easy to attribute the intentions of people who disagree as being ‘right wing’ or ‘white supremacists’ or any number of political views that are considered hateful.

The fact that that is all they have left because they can no longer say the science says otherwise or pretend it doesn’t exist.

@Helleofabore

It is so easy to attribute the intentions of people who disagree as being ‘right wing’ or ‘white supremacists’ or any number of political views that are considered hateful.

The fact that that is all they have left because they can no longer say the science says otherwise or pretend it doesn’t exist.

very true and well expressed.

See the thing here is ‘former’ soccer player.

Fine to back something now that it doesn’t affect you going forward eh dearie?

Take the shame.

And I’m not white or a supremacist funnily enough.

I’m just a woman that is fecking fed up of women happily chucking other women under the bus while simultaneously appeasing any man who can’t cut it in the menzsport.

Fixed some of it for her.
"That should be upheld across this country because years ago we decided that discrimination is not right in this country, and that we need to continue to provide access, and that WOMEN should have equal opportunity.”

Here are some stats for Lindsay.

By age 14, many girls are dropping out of sports at two times the rate of boys.1
Through more than 25 years of research, the Women’s Sports Foundation has identified key factors which contribute to this alarming statistic. Read on to learn more about how these factors influence girls’ sport experiences and why they need to stay in the game.

1. Why they drop out:

Lack of access.Girls have 1.3 million fewer opportunities to play high school sports than boys have. Lack of physical education in schools and limited opportunities to play sports in both high school and college mean girls have to look elsewhere for sports –which may not exist or may cost more money. Often there is an additional lack of access to adequate playing facilities near their homes that makes it more difficult for girls to engage in sports.

2. Why they drop out:

Safety and transportation issues.Sports require a place to participate – and for many girls, especially in dense urban environments, that means traveling to facilities through unsafe neighborhoods or lacking any means to get to a good facility miles away. And if there isn’t a safe option like carpooling with other families, the only option for a girl and her family may be to stay home.

Why they need to stay in:

Girls active in sports during adolescence and young adulthood are 20% less likely to get breast cancer later in life.2

[...]

4. Why they drop out:

Decreased quality of experience.As girls grow up, the quality level of their sports experience may decline. The facilities are not as good as the boys’ venues and the playing times may not be optimal. The availability of quality, trained coaches may be lacking in their community or these coaches may be more focused on the boys’ programs that have more money for training. Equipment, and even uniforms aren’t funded for many girls’ programs at the same levels as boys so their ability to grow and enjoy the sport is diminished. In short, sports just aren’t “fun” any more.

Why they need to stay in:

More than three-quarters of working women feel that sports participation helps enhance their self-image.4

www.womenssportsfoundation.org/do-you-know-the-factors-influencing-girls-participation-in-sports/

The "white supremacy" accusation is nuts. The group who stand to lose most from allowing biological males to compete in women's sport is black women, for whom sport has often represented a route out of poverty. What are they going to do when the sports scholarships to university are being awarded to biological males?

Frankly, I'm astounded every time this comes up.

The general benefits of sport for children and adolescents are touted as part of the arguments for placing a particular set of children in a different sports category, as if they are the only children out there who could possibly benefit from sport! There are a LOT of kids out there who find sport helps their mental health.

We need to be asking how many MORE girls will be driven out of sport, and what the impact on their mental and physical health will be if they drop sport.

Further quotes from the above link

6. Why they drop out:

Lack of positive role models.Today’s girls are bombarded with images of external beauty, not those of confident, strong female athletic role models. To some girls, fitting within the mold that they are constantly told to stay in is more important than standing out. Peer pressure can be hard for girls at any age; when that pressure isn’t offset with strong encouragement to participate in sports and healthy physical activity, the results may lead girls to drop out altogether.

Why they need to stay in:

High school female athletes have more positive body images than non-athletes.6

Allowing male born people to colonise female sports is white supremacy? I can't even...

@HecatesCatsInFancyHats

Allowing male born people to colonise female sports is white supremacy? I can't even...

The stupidity of some people is unfathomable.

It does my mental health harm by listening to this type of claptrap and watching women betting a kicking. But my mental health - being harmed by something I cannot control or walk away from - isn’t as important as others though is it?

I think that article is a good reminder that heading the ball too often can cause brain damage.

@andyoldlabour
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dailycaller.com/2021/04/24/former-us-soccer-player-lori-lindsey-banning-transgender-athletes-upholds-white-supremacy/

I await to see a mixed sex soccer league this person is setting up to help with trans people and others mental health and access to sport...

Oh wait. They just want to tell other people what to do...

(I used to play mixed Hockey. It was fun, but different to Women's hockey or indeed Men's Hockey)

I'm a rugby player and have zero problems with allowing trans women to play in our teams or teams against us :)

People often have zero problems doing things that are not wise. It's sports authorities job to keep competitors safe, and that includes ruling out risky behaviour and situations, even if some players don't see the problem.

@NecessaryScene1 by height and weight testing people? Because that's crazy. Women's rugby is already so vast in terms of size, weight, strength, experience etc that no argument of that makes any sense.

But I disagree - the people taking part should be the ones to say what they are comfortable with doing. Can't be that worried about the safety of women playing when it's already completely off the scale at grassroots level lol

So, are you a female then willitjappen?

Have you looked at the world rugby notes about their decision? Are you perfectly happy for a transwoman who might be the height, weight and build of
Fad de Klerk, let alone Jonny Hill to play against your team?

And do you understand that you don’t have the authority to make that decision for all women?

Differences within sexes ie tall women, short women, muscular women are not the same as differences between the two sexes of male and female

Given what is going on in rugby with issues around concussions, head injuries and a large number of players being diagnosed with early on set dementia and other brain related problems due to numerous collisions you’d the RFU would run a mile from letting men play on women’s teams and instead go with world rugby guidance

But then the RFU has often moved in mysterious ways....

@willithappen

I'm a rugby player and have zero problems with allowing trans women to play in our teams or teams against us :)

Why isn't rugby mixed sex?

by height and weight testing people?

If you really think sex differences are merely about height and weight, you seem to have rather limited knowledge.

How much mixed-sex full-contact rugby have you actually played? Have you ever faced a male of your size and weight?

Assuming you want to become more knowledgeable, a good place to start would be to listen to Ross Tucker, who was involved in organising the World Rugby trans workshop.

Why Rugby's Controversial New Transgender Guidelines Make Sense For All Sporting Codes

I know you want to "be nice", but this is serious. Treat it seriously.

Can't be that worried about the safety of women playing when it's already completely off the scale at grassroots level lol

What do you mean?

When you refuse to put forward a rational case, others can only assume you know you don’t have one.

So, are you a female then willitjappen?

Ah, good point. If willitjappen is male, then saying "I'm a rugby player and have zero problems with allowing trans women to play in our teams or teams against us" is admirable. Maybe it's trick phrasing.

And we should be asking that question - why are transwomen feeling unwelcome in male teams? Why aren't other males welcoming them.

I'm a rugby player and have zero problems with allowing trans women to play in our teams or teams against us smile

That’s nice. Irrelevant, but nice.