Rape suspects can choose to self-identify as female - Times Scotland

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Yousaf claims they would need a full GRC but:
"Detective Superintendent Fil Capaldi said: “The sex/gender identification of individuals who come into contact with the police will be based on how they present or how they self- declare, which is consistent with the values of the organisation."
Does that mean the "values of the organisation" potentially trump the justice secretary and the Scottish parliament?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aba95fce-9ef0-11eb-a908-ec96e110073e?shareToken=828b6f29f363f02863b00aa4b523a1c0

So the fact that the sex of an individual is instrumental as to whether they are a rapist or likely to be a victim - the police think this is irrelevant and shouldn’t be referred to?

The values of this organisation is to utterly piss on the needs and reality of rape victims. Reporting of rape is low as it is. Who the hell would want to report rape to an organisation with such an utter contempt for victims.

What a depressing story. At a time when girls and women are speaking out in greater numbers about rape and sexual abuse, the Scottish government makes things worse with measures like this. They're not good at joining up the dots are they?

I'm just aghast that the police think they are deciding what the law is (with a bit of input by Stonewall no doubt) not that their job is to uphold it as decided by the legislature.

This surely is enough to begin the process of getting rid of the GRC which is indeed a legal fiction which muddies the very murky waters relating to crime, the law, statistics and punishment.

It means the 'values of the organisation' put the wants of men above the needs of women. I guess we can't fault him for accuracy. Does he think this is a good thing?

The sex/gender identification of individuals who come into contact with the police will be based on how they present or how they self- declare,
This is so vague and inconsistent! How they present? The police will decide someone's sex based on their clothing? How will that work?

He really is trolling a nation. Nasty thing (I don’t even know what I can refer to them as these days).

And when we are told "you women, you're all hysterical. Show me an example of a trans woman being a threat to a cis woman or girl", and we say "look at the newspaper reports," they're not there, because they're recorded as 'female'.

And if you say ‘look at the photo of the offender’ you are called a bigot... ho hum.

@ErrolTheDragon

It means the 'values of the organisation' put the wants of men above the needs of women. I guess we can't fault him for accuracy. Does he think this is a good thing?

This

Why are our Twitter friends always absent on these threads? I really want to hear what possible justification there is for this.

The Police Scotland spokesman appears to be the Head of their National Human Trafficking Unit.

www.scotland.police.uk/what-s-happening/news/2020/september/trafficking-scotland-and-romania/

You couldn't make this shit up.

For it or against it?

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/6342396/sex-trafficking-scotland-100-women-prostitution/

“Sexual ­exploitation of these women is still very much there. ­Traffickers have still been open for business throughout Covid and continue to be a ­significant threat.

“From our experience, the demand hasn’t dropped. In our inquiries around sexual ­exploitation, we saw there was no let up on transactions.”

In 2019, Police Scotland identifies 114 women had been the victim of sex trafficking in Scotland.

Detective Capaldi also warned the loosening of travel restrictions around the globe will see a spike in trafficking.

He also confirmed there has been no notable drop in men buying sex online from adult websites which are "the most significant enablers of sexual exploitation".

Well at least it's out in the open now, which is a good thing as I think the general public will be a lot more curious about this than Police Scotland appear to be. So well done to the Dr Kath Murray and to Murray Blackburn Mackenzie for making the FOI request.

Thinking this abhorrent chain of through to some of its logical ends…

And then I stopped right there. I'm not obliged to allow that insanity in my head. And yet I have no control over living in societies that are about to enforce it socially and legally.

@transbadger

Why are our Twitter friends always absent on these threads? I really want to hear what possible justification there is for this.

Do you recall #RapistHill ?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3383043-First-they-came-for-the-rapists-and-I-did-not-speak-out-because-I-was-not-a-rapist

I'd forgotten that! Bookmarked the thread.

@transbadger

Why are our Twitter friends always absent on these threads? I really want to hear what possible justification there is for this.

They are too busy laughing at victims of rape and sexual assault. This is one particularly vulnerable group of women who have always been on their hit list. It's truly fucking twisted.

Rape and sexual assault are not necessarily driven by sex. It's about power, and about humiliation. Having forced that on women without our consent, even in a justice system which seems to favour the perpetrators every step of the way, the final indignity is that they are using the system to reinforce that humiliation. And they are receiving endorsement for this from the establishment.

I'm one of the enormous statistic of women who have been on the receiving end of this gruesome, invasive, psychologically damaging crime, and been denied justice. This sort of thing is the reason why women don't report it.

It should be a real source of national shame. (But of course, isn't, because it primarily affects women).

Huh. The Twitter thread seems to have been removed as the user is suspended.

Maybe Twitter are becoming more considerate about VAWG?

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

Not aware of this. I'll have a look later today.

Rape and sexual assault are not necessarily driven by sex. It's about power, and about humiliation. Having forced that on women without our consent, even in a justice system which seems to favour the perpetrators every step of the way, the final indignity is that they are using the system to reinforce that humiliation. And they are receiving endorsement for this from the establishment.

YY

I was going to say something similar but this is very well put.

If you really hate and despise women there's nothing sweeter or more satisfying than raping women and then telling the police "I am a woman". I mean the fucker will be laughing and wanking their head off till the cows come home.

The possible idea of being housed in the women's prison is extremely attractive to the sex offender.

How no one can see this is unbelievable.

Rape and sexual assault are not necessarily driven by sex. It's about power, and about humiliation. Having forced that on women without our consent, even in a justice system which seems to favour the perpetrators every step of the way, the final indignity is that they are using the system to reinforce that humiliation.

From my limited understanding of some philias, isn't that appalling experience quite a popular one in some philic groups? If your interest in transgression is being able to enforce it on others and compel its acceptance, having the legal system even more explicitly backing you up than previously, and knowing that your victim is being further victimised on your behalf, with that system as its proxy - that must be quite the headrush for transgressors who enjoy that sort of abuse of power.

11:17 MarieIVanArkleStinks Also very sorry to hear what you've been through

I think I would respond by choosing to identify as a woman who was raped by a man.