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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Breaking News! The Endocrine Society Confirms that Sex is Biological, Dichotomous, Immutable, Determined at Conception and MUST NOT be Obfuscated by Referring to Gender!!

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IDontOnlyLikeJazzFunk · 08/04/2021 10:41

From the recently released statement (taken slightly out of order):

Sex is an important biological variable that must be considered in the design and analysis of human and animal research. The terms sex and gender should not be used interchangeably. Sex is dichotomous, with sex determination in the fertilized zygote stemming from unequal expression of sex chromosomal genes. By contrast, gender includes perception of the individual as male, female, or other, both by the individual and by society; both humans and animals have sex, but only humans have gender. Both sexes produce estrogens, androgens, and progestins; there are no male- or female-specific sex hormones, per se, although these steroids are present in substantially different levels in males and females.

Much of the American public is surprisingly prudish about the word sex; it has now become commonplace to use the seemingly more genteel term gender when one really means sex. In Moritz v Commissioner of Internal Revenue (469 F. 2d 466 [1972]), Ruth Bader Ginsburg (subsequently, The Honorable Ruth Bader Ginsburg) argued against discrimination “on the basis of sex” not “on the basis of gender,” thus clearly, knowledgeably, and presciently understanding that “sex” does not equal “gender.” In a decision 48 years later (Bostock v Clayton County, 590 US, decided June 15, 2020), the United States Supreme Court separately ruled against discrimination on the basis of gender. Gender is often misused as a synonym for sex—for example, when filling out forms for various activities, we are routinely asked to check a box labeled “gender,” but the only available options are boxes labeled “M” and “F.” But sex is not the same thing as gender and using these terms as equivalents obfuscates differences that are real and important in society in general and biomedical research in particular.

Sex is a biological concept. Asexual reproduction (cloning) is routine in microorganisms and some plants, but most vertebrates and all mammals have 2 distinct sexes. Even single-cell organisms have “mating types” to facilitate sexual reproduction. Only cells belonging to different mating types can fuse together to reproduce sexually (2, 3). Sexual reproduction allows for exchange of genetic information and promotes genetic diversity. The classical biological definition of the 2 sexes is that females have ovaries and make larger female gametes (eggs), whereas males have testes and make smaller male gametes (sperm); the 2 gametes fertilize to form the zygote, which has the potential to become a new individual. The advantage of this simple definition is first that it can be applied universally to any species of sexually reproducing organism. Second, it is a bedrock concept of evolution, because selection of traits may differ in the 2 sexes. Thirdly, the definition can be extended to the ovaries and testes, and in this way the categories—female and male—can be applied also to individuals who have gonads but do not make gametes.

It does onto confirm that:
Gender identity is a psychological concept that refers to an individual’s self-perception; while associations between gender identity, neuroanatomic, genetic, and hormone levels exist, a clear causative biological underpinning of gender identity remains to be demonstrated.

I have only skimmed but those are two very important points. Later on there is a rather large inconsistency as it mentions 'sex assigned at birth' Hmm and I haven't got time to finish the rest. I thought it was a positive step though.

There is lots of extremely interesting information about sex and sex hormones etc and how it all works so I'll read through it in detail when I have time.

academic.oup.com/edrv/advance-article/doi/10.1210/endrev/bnaa034/6159361#.YG386Eqj1v4.twitter

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NonHypotheticalLurkingParent · 11/04/2021 15:53

Thanks R0wan

The lobby groups involved with the Tavistock and it's clinicians will be coming under much greater scrutiny regarding their rolls in pushing for certain treatments as the blame-game intensifies. The cosy relationship will be ending. NHSE are currently being held over hot potatoes by Mermaids in their latest press statement titled - Dear NHS England, please comply with the law

We were informed on Wednesday evening by NHS England that its position will be provided ‘no later than the end of the week commencing 12 April 2021’. We have a growing concern around the seeming disparity in approach by NHSE when comparing its immediate action following Bell (with regard to its updating guidance the same day) and this latest judgment. We acknowledge that NHSE did not receive sight of the judgment until the 26 March and a period of time to organise internal policy should be expected. However, the handling of this complex situation continues to cause considerable distress and we call on NHSE to fulfil its duty of care to its young and vulnerable patients.

A final deadline of 18 April 2021 has been given and we will be holding NHS England to account should this not be met.

Defaultname · 11/04/2021 17:52

@SunsetBeetch

This is a bit of a reverse ferret from them, isn't it?
'Terref'? Isn't that an epithet?

(Only kidding).

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 21/06/2021 03:54

Given Appleby's hearing is still in progress, and I still don't know if there will be a contribution from the authors of the initial problematic Endocrine Society statement, it seemed helpful to add this analysis of the two statements.

Unity has scrutinised the references (always a good idea) and there is greater illumination of just how muddled the claims and understandings were that led to this elegant understatement:

Gender identity is a psychological concept that refers to an individual’s self-perception; while associations between gender identity, neuroanatomic, genetic, and hormone levels exist, a clear causative biological underpinning of gender identity remains to be demonstrated.

There is also a very helpful postscript on the topic of innateness which is based on one of the references:

Or, to put it another way, innateness allows trans-activists to move illicitly from the view that biological differences between human males and female may exert a measure of influence over certain aspects of their behaviour (e.g. physical aggression) to the view that gender identity is insensitive to environmental influences in development.

Just think about that for a moment. Innateness, a concept that sits are the very core of contemporary trans-ideology and the affirmation-only approach to treating children with apparent variant gender identities was brought into disrepute in animal behaviour studies as long ago as the 1950’s.

www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2021/06/18/is-there-a-fixed-biological-basis-for-gender-identity/

highame · 21/06/2021 08:08

From what I remember of the application for appeal, some of the joiners were accepted and one was a US endocrinology organisation. I am assuming they (the Fox et al) had to search for one willing to say cross sex and puberty blockers were not harmful and were not still in the research stage. The organisation doesn't look like the best and may come under a lot of scrutiny, especially in the light of this latest release.

Good luck to KB & Mrs A

highame · 21/06/2021 08:09

think I've cross posted???

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