Pro-porn Childline film encouraging kids to google BDSM etc

[Sunkisses]

Jeez, just seen this from the Safe Schools Alliance UK on twitter. Six years ago Childline produced this pro-porn film which is basically an advert for PornHub masquerading as a child protection resource. It tells children that porn is "fun" & recommends genres like BDSM to google. It's had over 3 million views in the last 6 years, and goodness knows how much it has contributed to the rape culture we are now seeing in schools. It is illegal for under 18s to view porn, and children should be taught this and the harms of pornography, not encouraged to view it with a nod, nod, wink, wink attitude.

You can view the Safe Schools Alliance UK tweet here: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1379528765261381634

SSAUK are calling on Childline and the NSPCC (who run Childline) to take this film down.

The Government should bring in age-verification for online porn ASAP to prevent children having easy access to online porn. All the laws have been passed, and the regulatory framework is in place. The Government bottled it at the last minute in 2019 after facing pressure from the powerful porn industry. Our children deserve better.

Whaaat?
With our strict router settings though they'd never manage to see any of it, thankfully.

Here's some info on it that you obviously won't read: www.childnet.com/blog/childline-fapz-campaign

I've just read your "additional info" link and this is not pearl clutching at all. The solution to children watching porn isn't to encourage them to watch porn ffs.

/bangs head on table/

Fapz?

@FightingTheFoo

I've just read your "additional info" link and this is not pearl clutching at all. The solution to children watching porn isn't to encourage them to watch porn ffs.

/bangs head on table/

They're not encouraging children to watch porn. They are accepting the reality that:

• most people 12+ have seen some form of pornography
• they report that they feel depressed, have body image issues, and feel pressured to engage in certain acts after being exposed to porn.

You can either drive your head into the sand and clutch your pearls. Or you can accept the reality and TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN about it.

That's very clearly stated as the objective of the campaign.

They're not encouraging children to watch porn. Or to search for porn. That's some reach you're making.

The video hugely underestimates what it calls "the dark side"

There is no mention of trafficking or the porn industry's links to money laundering or organised crime.

There was no consideration at all of the societal effect of the normalisation of treating other human beings as mere objects.

There was a huge minimising of the power of imagination and no consideration at all of the stimulation to be had from one's own imagination or written pornography or erotica.

It came from the unquestioned starting point that porn is fine and normal with only a cursory examination of why it might not be.
Even that cursory examination was predicated that it's only bad porn which is bad. There was no analysis at all of the harm even "good porn" causes beyond the minimal comment that too much can cause addiction.

There was no reference at all to the fact the addiction involves desensitisation.

I encourage every parent to talk to their children about the harms of porn (and to strengthen their parental filters on all their devices and wifi), but I would NEVER recommend Childline or NSPCC. I would point all parents to Gail Dine's excellent Culture Reframed programme which teaches parents how to talk to their kids about this from a feminist perspective.
www.culturereframed.org/

as we are feminists here and understand that violently misogynistic porn demeans women

To be clear to yeahbutnaw I'm neither a feminist nor a pearl clutcher. Neither is a requirement to understand that porn is damaging.

Who the hell comes on a women's rights page and does the old "you're a load of pearl clutchers, what's wrong with porn" routine?

Easiest slur in the book. When 12 year olds are watching porn and suffering with mental health issues as a result - it's time to ask serious questions about access to and prevalence of porn. It's not time to make a touchy feely video which accepts this as normal. Women who a) care about the representation/exploitation and objectification of women in porn and b) about safeguarding kids aren't pearl clutchers. Wake up.

Would you like to say 'pearl' and 'clutching' a few more times for the people at the back

Stuffing derisive labels on people doesn't help much really.

@RabbitOfCaerbannog

Who the hell comes on a women's rights page and does the old "you're a load of pearl clutchers, what's wrong with porn" routine?

Easiest slur in the book. When 12 year olds are watching porn and suffering with mental health issues as a result - it's time to ask serious questions about access to and prevalence of porn. It's not time to make a touchy feely video which accepts this as normal. Women who a) care about the representation/exploitation and objectification of women in porn and b) about safeguarding kids aren't pearl clutchers. Wake up.

This takes me back to the days when people argued against sex education in favour of abstinence.

That worked out really well, didn't it?

Teenagers will find porn regardless of your parental controls. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have them.

But it doesn't mean you can completely ignore talking to your children about the porn that they will no doubt discover at some point.

PS: Gay teenagers exist. Not all porn includes women. Wake up.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm

You made a false claim that Childline are encouraging children to watch porn

The claim is not false. The video is wholly predicated on the view that porn is fine as long as you don't watch too much of it.

There was a very brief mention that some of it might be illegal- no mention at all of trafficking or that it would be almost impossible to tell if the "actors" had been trafficked.

There was a frankly nauseating "wink wink you are 18" comment. I took from that he knew perfectly well his viewers are not 18.

"ONLINE PORN WEBSITES PROMOTE SEXUALLY VIOLENT VIDEOS: One in eight porn videos promoted to first-time users of the UK's leading adult sites are labelled with text describing sexually violent acts, according to a study."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56640178

I'm just chuckling at someone coming onto a feminist forum and calling women pearl clutchers.

@RandomDent

Fapz?

'Fapz' as in 'fapping', slang for (male) masturbation?!

PS: Gay teenagers exist. Not all porn includes women. Wake up

I'll repeat part of my first post as you clearly didn't read it. Nothing I said is limited to women.

There is no mention of trafficking or the porn industry's links to money laundering or organised crime

There was no consideration at all of the societal effect of the normalisation of treating other human beings as mere objects

"Pornhub has been sued by 40 women who say it profited from a sex-trafficking operation by a content partner."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55333403

TRAFFICKING- I've put it in capitals for the hard of hearing.

How on earth can anyone take that video seriously when it omitted any reference to TRAFFICKING.

"7 scandals PornHub doesn’t want you to know about
PornHub believes itself above all laws—including those against child pornography. No wonder 946k people have signed to shut it down."

"Kidnapped girl forced to perform in "verified" PornHub videos Christopher Johnson, 30, was arrested in South Florida after sex trafficking the 15-year-old on PornHub."

lulz.com/scandals-pornhub-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-10056/

"The Children of Pornhub
Why does Canada allow this company to profit off videos of exploitation and assault?"

www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/opinion/sunday/pornhub-rape-trafficking.html

"Violence during consensual sex has become normalised, campaigners have warned.

It comes after more than a third of UK women under the age of 40 have experienced unwanted slapping, choking, gagging or spitting during consensual sex, research for BBC Radio 5 Live suggests."

'A man tried to choke me during sex without warning' www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50546184