Pro-porn Childline film encouraging kids to google BDSM etc

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Jeez, just seen this from the Safe Schools Alliance UK on twitter. Six years ago Childline produced this pro-porn film which is basically an advert for PornHub masquerading as a child protection resource. It tells children that porn is "fun" & recommends genres like BDSM to google. It's had over 3 million views in the last 6 years, and goodness knows how much it has contributed to the rape culture we are now seeing in schools. It is illegal for under 18s to view porn, and children should be taught this and the harms of pornography, not encouraged to view it with a nod, nod, wink, wink attitude.

You can view the Safe Schools Alliance UK tweet here: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1379528765261381634

SSAUK are calling on Childline and the NSPCC (who run Childline) to take this film down.

The Government should bring in age-verification for online porn ASAP to prevent children having easy access to online porn. All the laws have been passed, and the regulatory framework is in place. The Government bottled it at the last minute in 2019 after facing pressure from the powerful porn industry. Our children deserve better.

Do you often encourage children to watch porn then Asugarr?

What is it about this video that you feel is so great?

Hahaha.

Sure you are

Unless by young people you don't mean children, IE the target audience of CHILD line.

You see no issue with someone telling children to google extreme porn terms? You see no issue with kids being told "porn is fun" with just an aside about how damaging it is? You see no issue with the presenter jokingly asking the audience "you are 18 right" and a little girls voice saying "yes". You see no issues with children watching porn? You do know anyone showing porn to children is classed as non contact child abuse? If you showed this to any of my children I would be making a formal complaint on safeguarding grounds.

@Helleofabore

Do you often encourage children to watch porn then Asugarr?

What is it about this video that you feel is so great?

It's not about encouragement, it's about knowing what porn is and knowing that if you watch it how to understand it isn't real.

Meh

Random poster says telling kids a whole load of search terms for different types of porn is awesome.

Whatever.

@2fallsagain

You see no issue with someone telling children to google extreme porn terms? You see no issue with kids being told "porn is fun" with just an aside about how damaging it is? You see no issue with the presenter jokingly asking the audience "you are 18 right" and a little girls voice saying "yes". You see no issues with children watching porn? You do know anyone showing porn to children is classed as non contact child abuse? If you showed this to any of my children I would be making a formal complaint on safeguarding grounds.

The age currently for when people watch porn for the first time is 13/14. Obviously today we urge to ensure the porn someone is watching is safe (for example, porn hub have verified users which means they've had full background checks). Regardless if we like it or not, young people will watch porn so it is important we give them the factual information to understanding it's pros and come. Okay well that's too bad as sexual health work is confidential.

Red flags all over this

it's pros and come

Unfortunate typo

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

it's pros and come

Unfortunate typo

Haha! My bad. Pros and cons 😂

I knew what you meant ASugar 🙂

(for example, porn hub have verified users which means they've had full background checks)

Is that so?

lulz.com/scandals-pornhub-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-10056/

Kidnapped girl forced to perform in “verified” PornHub videos

As Mickelwait describes in her Change.org petition, a 15-year-old who was missing for over a year was featured in 58 videos of her rape and sexual abuse—all of which went unmoderated for that same period of time. The petition now has close to a million signatures.

A South Florida teenager who was abducted in 2018 was forced to perform in dozens of pornographic videos with her kidnapper. In the year she was missing, the teenager was listed as a “verified” model on Pornhub and Modelhub, and her videos which were initially uploaded to Pornhub, made the rounds on Periscope and Snapchat, according to Newsweek. The victim says that she was forced to have an abortion after being impregnated by her abductor, 30-year-old Christopher Johnson.

People may not realize this is an important topic to talk about. We talk about drugs and alcohol in the same way. We talk about drugs, the effects and what they do, what the reasons are that someone chooses to use and not use (this includes sugar, coffee, alcohol) and the dangers that lie. It isn't promoting it to tell people what porn is and what it is used for. It's essentially for people to make their mind up what they wish to do, because without this info everyone would just follow the crowd and use it unnessesarily.
Porn is something we discuss with young people because parents introduce the internet to them from such a young age that they are bound to see porn. That can't be stopped. So we openly discuss what it is, which I believe Tom did a very good job of 😁

@yourhairiswinterfire

(for example, porn hub have verified users which means they've had full background checks)

Is that so?

lulz.com/scandals-pornhub-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-10056/

Kidnapped girl forced to perform in “verified” PornHub videos

As Mickelwait describes in her Change.org petition, a 15-year-old who was missing for over a year was featured in 58 videos of her rape and sexual abuse—all of which went unmoderated for that same period of time. The petition now has close to a million signatures.

A South Florida teenager who was abducted in 2018 was forced to perform in dozens of pornographic videos with her kidnapper. In the year she was missing, the teenager was listed as a “verified” model on Pornhub and Modelhub, and her videos which were initially uploaded to Pornhub, made the rounds on Periscope and Snapchat, according to Newsweek. The victim says that she was forced to have an abortion after being impregnated by her abductor, 30-year-old Christopher Johnson.

This change has been made since 2018. It was made at the end of 2020. And we take the time to tell young people these stories where we can, having an open discussion on this with your kids is important.

It's not about encouragement, it's about knowing what porn is and knowing that if you watch it how to understand it isn't real.

So, the messaging in this video is that porn is ‘fun’ and it barely touches the problems currently being experienced by the consumption of porn but finishes with another reiteration that it is ‘fun’ and ‘fine’.

What meaning of ‘pornography is as fun to watch as it is as hard to forget’ and ‘as long as know what you are watching, enjoy it in moderation and you are not doing anything illegal, you’ll be fine. Have fun!’ Is not encouraging children to watch porn exactly?

How do you interpret those sentences? What do they say in your own words?

We should be having the discussion about how porn affects young people, how it impacts relationships, how it feeds into the perception of women and how it influences sexual violence. Childline, which must also be aware that countless children are exploited in the making of porn does nothing of the sort. It's ok to say some things are not ok:

"Impact of pornography
Pornography can give young people ideas about the type of sex they want to try: 42% of 15-16 year olds said that pornography has given them ideas of sexual practices that they would like to emulate.
Just over half of boys (53%) believed that the pornography they had seen was realistic compared to 39% of girls. A number of girls said they were worried about how porn would make boys see girls and the possible impact on attitudes to sex and relationships.
“It can make a boy not look for love just look for sex and it can pressure us girls to act and look and behave in a certain way before we might be ready for it” (Female, 13)

www.saferinternet.org.uk/blog/impact-online-pornography-children

@Helleofabore

It's not about encouragement, it's about knowing what porn is and knowing that if you watch it how to understand it isn't real.

So, the messaging in this video is that porn is ‘fun’ and it barely touches the problems currently being experienced by the consumption of porn but finishes with another reiteration that it is ‘fun’ and ‘fine’.

What meaning of ‘pornography is as fun to watch as it is as hard to forget’ and ‘as long as know what you are watching, enjoy it in moderation and you are not doing anything illegal, you’ll be fine. Have fun!’ Is not encouraging children to watch porn exactly?

How do you interpret those sentences? What do they say in your own words?

Porn is fun and fine!

It isn't promoting or encouraging young people to watch porn. It's allowing people to know what porn (if consumed correctly) is fine. There is some porn that is considered illegal so it's important to discuss what porn is acceptable to watch and what isn't.

[quote RabbitOfCaerbannog]We should be having the discussion about how porn affects young people, how it impacts relationships, how it feeds into the perception of women and how it influences sexual violence. Childline, which must also be aware that countless children are exploited in the making of porn does nothing of the sort. It's ok to say some things are not ok:

"Impact of pornography
Pornography can give young people ideas about the type of sex they want to try: 42% of 15-16 year olds said that pornography has given them ideas of sexual practices that they would like to emulate.
Just over half of boys (53%) believed that the pornography they had seen was realistic compared to 39% of girls. A number of girls said they were worried about how porn would make boys see girls and the possible impact on attitudes to sex and relationships.
“It can make a boy not look for love just look for sex and it can pressure us girls to act and look and behave in a certain way before we might be ready for it” (Female, 13)

www.saferinternet.org.uk/blog/impact-online-pornography-children[/quote]
Actually a lot of those points were discussed in the video or is discussed in the government RSE guidelines.

Actually a lot of those points were discussed in the video or is discussed in the government RSE guidelines.

Trafficking women and girls into the online porn industry was discussed?

@RabbitOfCaerbannog

Actually a lot of those points were discussed in the video or is discussed in the government RSE guidelines.

Trafficking women and girls into the online porn industry was discussed?

Yes.

*As someone who teaches sexual health to young people I see no issue with this content! It explains exactly what porn is and has a healthy discussion around it 🤍

Think I'll be using this in future classes.*

Out of interest, do you have get any information about the background of the children you teach?

For example, would you know if there was a young person in the group who had experienced sexual abuse or trafficking?

@applesaucespoon

*As someone who teaches sexual health to young people I see no issue with this content! It explains exactly what porn is and has a healthy discussion around it 🤍

Think I'll be using this in future classes.*

Out of interest, do you have get any information about the background of the children you teach?

For example, would you know if there was a young person in the group who had experienced sexual abuse or trafficking?

Not usually, however they are able to disclose those things if necessary or if brought up in discussions. That's why it is actually important to talk about because it usually will spark a conversation where we can help those who are vulnerable.

Porn is fun and fine!

Increasing numbers of women and girls are reporting sexual assault and harassment. Many have said that they have experienced slapping or choking because these are behaviours normalised by porn that degrades women. But a man on the internet says porn is fine, so I guess that's that then.

"A man asked if he could ‘slap’ and ‘spit on me’ – we need to stop normalising sexual violence against women"

www.independent.co.uk/voices/sexual-violence-choking-dating-apps-consent-b1790669.html

"Violence during consensual sex has become normalised, campaigners have warned.

It comes after more than a third of UK women under the age of 40 have experienced unwanted slapping, choking, gagging or spitting during consensual sex, research for BBC Radio 5 Live suggests."

'A man tried to choke me during sex without warning' www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50546184

'The age currently for when people watch porn for the first time is 13/14'

I think it's lower than that isn't it? And most are shown it first. Often by older children.

'Obviously today we urge to ensure the porn someone is watching is safe '

Safe for who? And what does 'safe' even mean in the context of porn sites and the content and descriptions they commonly use?

Why is the racism in porn ignored?
The underlying misogyny in het porn?
The fact that it is becoming more extreme in the treatment of women?
The fact that the majority of het content is filmed for the male gaze and a detached, objectifying one at that?

For a boy watching het porn then pretty much all of the time he will view it through the male/s in the film. A really dodgy view of sex and what people do and how they do it etc.

For a girl seeing the standard modern fare for the first time. Reading the titles. Relating to the woman (or 'barely legal' very young looking woman). The subject in what are very much predominantly male sexual dominance fantasies.

I mean it's a grim message.

But no! Childline says porn is arousing, normal and find to watch however old you are. Etc etc.

That is not a good message. It's not what I've told my kids. And I started talking to them when they were about 9 (in an age appropriate way, obv).

@RabbitOfCaerbannog

Porn is fun and fine!

Increasing numbers of women and girls are reporting sexual assault and harassment. Many have said that they have experienced slapping or choking because these are behaviours normalised by porn that degrades women. But a man on the internet says porn is fine, so I guess that's that then.

"A man asked if he could ‘slap’ and ‘spit on me’ – we need to stop normalising sexual violence against women"

www.independent.co.uk/voices/sexual-violence-choking-dating-apps-consent-b1790669.html

"Violence during consensual sex has become normalised, campaigners have warned.

It comes after more than a third of UK women under the age of 40 have experienced unwanted slapping, choking, gagging or spitting during consensual sex, research for BBC Radio 5 Live suggests."

'A man tried to choke me during sex without warning' www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50546184

Again. This is why we have an open discussion to talk about porn being fake (which was said in the video), that it isn't like actual sex, that consent and a discussion before having sex is necessary and more.