Pro-porn Childline film encouraging kids to google BDSM etc

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Jeez, just seen this from the Safe Schools Alliance UK on twitter. Six years ago Childline produced this pro-porn film which is basically an advert for PornHub masquerading as a child protection resource. It tells children that porn is "fun" & recommends genres like BDSM to google. It's had over 3 million views in the last 6 years, and goodness knows how much it has contributed to the rape culture we are now seeing in schools. It is illegal for under 18s to view porn, and children should be taught this and the harms of pornography, not encouraged to view it with a nod, nod, wink, wink attitude.

You can view the Safe Schools Alliance UK tweet here: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1379528765261381634

SSAUK are calling on Childline and the NSPCC (who run Childline) to take this film down.

The Government should bring in age-verification for online porn ASAP to prevent children having easy access to online porn. All the laws have been passed, and the regulatory framework is in place. The Government bottled it at the last minute in 2019 after facing pressure from the powerful porn industry. Our children deserve better.

yeahbutnaw

The first thing that children/young people need to know about pornography is how dangerous it is, how demeans and humiliates women and is misogynistic to the point of no return.

How it depicts men and women in a largely male fantasy where the women are utterly subordinate. And how it attempts to normalise sexual practices that most women, and certainly children, do not want.

They also need to know that watching porn is illegal under the age of 18. And anyone encouraging them to do so is committing a crime.

They need to be shown how young men's expectations of sex are blown out of all reality by their access to porn. And that it is difficult for anyone to know whether or not the woman has been trafficked, and you are therefore watching filmed rape.

Perhaps you have seen in the news the overwhelming number of female pupils, and teachers, who have been sexually harassed, assaulted, and raped and who live in fear of a porn inspired rape culture. In school.

It is you who needs to 'wake up'.

I'm absolutely certain this has escaped your psyche, but women *are human^, you know. We are not your resource.

@Datun

yeahbutnaw

The first thing that children/young people need to know about pornography is how dangerous it is, how demeans and humiliates women and is misogynistic to the point of no return.

How it depicts men and women in a largely male fantasy where the women are utterly subordinate. And how it attempts to normalise sexual practices that most women, and certainly children, do not want.

They also need to know that watching porn is illegal under the age of 18. And anyone encouraging them to do so is committing a crime.

They need to be shown how young men's expectations of sex are blown out of all reality by their access to porn. And that it is difficult for anyone to know whether or not the woman has been trafficked, and you are therefore watching filmed rape.

Perhaps you have seen in the news the overwhelming number of female pupils, and teachers, who have been sexually harassed, assaulted, and raped and who live in fear of a porn inspired rape culture. In school.

It is you who needs to 'wake up'.

I'm absolutely certain this has escaped your psyche, but women *are human^, you know. We are not your resource.

What a bizarre statement. Though I'm sure the hivemind here will rush to you with affirmations.

Again, gay teenagers exist. Not all porn includes women.

Several of the problems you mention are covered in the campaign. Trafficking isn't explicitly called out. If the argument made here was that it should be, then I'd agree.

But that's not the argument that was being made.

Again, gay teenagers exist. Not all porn includes women

My posts, apart from one where I quoted another poster, made no reference to women.

The video was dire. It started from the point of view that porn is fine and normal. The glossing over of desensitisation , the complete lack of any consideration of the wrong in treating other humans as masturbatory tools and the failure to even mention trafficking are disgraceful.

But that's not the argument that was being made

Do you have reading and comprehension issues?

I've mentioned the failure to mention trafficking in almost every post.

yeahbutnaw

I almost can't put myself through watching it. The vastly irritating man is encouraging children to Google BDSM and facials in porn. What is it you don't get? This is Childline.

The only thing children should be learning about porn is that it's illegal to watch it, and how they can avoid being pressured into watching it, and why it's dangerous.

Not 'hey, why dontcha look up some BDSM', from a man yelping out soundbites who would not look out of place on bloody Playschool.

Seriously.

Girls being raped in school to the tune of one a day. A day.

yeahbut I don't know why you are saying the video doesn't tell children to watch porn. The video says "If you want to see more than straight white people getting it on, you might have to be a little more specific. There are plenty of types of porn including but not limited to softcore, hardcore, lesbian, thespian, interracial, facial, alternative, conservative, hentai, Far Cry, BDSM, NEDM, amateur, mature and swan disco. However, if none of that stuff floats your boat then fear not because if the internet has taught us anything, it's that if it exists, there is porn of it."

What is that if not suggesting to children different porn terms to google?

@MissBarbary

But that's not the argument that was being made

Do you have reading and comprehension issues?

I've mentioned the failure to mention trafficking in almost every post.

I'm talking about the original poster. You are obsessed.

That should say childline

He saying porn is fun, it's sexy, and although unrealistic, he wished he look like a porn star.

He's basically saying that porn is great, except for these few bits here and there. It looks like he's had a serious problem with his attitude to women in the past judging by what he says.

I bet the first thing any kid does after watching that, is watch porn.

And then you get headlines like you have this week.

Trafficking isn't explicitly called out. If the argument made here was that it should be, then I'd agree.

I have shared numerous links which demonstrate my huge concerns about young men and women being exposed to increasingly violent, exploitative and degrading porn, which involves trafficking, underage actors (rape) and violence against girls and women and is far too easy for very young people to access. Of course these things should be addressed by a children's charity. It would be far better for Childline to be highlighting the dramatic rise in sexual exploitation, slavery and trafficking involving girls and young women, rather than blithely accepting that that's the way things are right now and hey, ho, kids gonna be kids. I've no idea where you lost your moral compass but your compassion for the victims of this trade is startlingly absent.

Horrifying video for all the reasons pointed out by the well-informed posters. No way on God's earth would a child of mine view that video. When did everyone get so blind to what is happening under our noses. This is NOT ok.

I have shared numerous links which demonstrate my huge concerns about young men and women being exposed to increasingly violent, exploitative and degrading porn, which involves trafficking, underage actors (rape) and violence against girls and women and is far too easy for very young people to access.

It's such an obvious dot connecting exercise, in light of the sexual offences happening to women and girls in school.

It's different to how it was even a few years ago. The degradation and wholesale humiliation of women is mainstream. Boys are growing up thinking it's completely and utterly normal. One boy, reported in MSM, was confused as to why the girl he was having sex with wasn't crying.

What is that if not suggesting to children different porn terms to google?

Indeed. Do you think we all came down in the last shower, yeahbutnaw?

It would be far better for Childline to be highlighting the dramatic rise in sexual exploitation, slavery and trafficking involving girls and young women, rather than blithely accepting that that's the way things are right now and hey, ho, kids gonna be kids. I've no idea where you lost your moral compass but your compassion for the victims of this trade is startlingly absent.

This.

FAPZ???!!!

What is childnet?

Anyway not watched the video BUT did Google and look at childline site.

Current advice includes

'Lots of people watch porn, which is okay. But it’s also okay if you don’t want to watch it, or if you’re not sure. It’s important to remember that porn is made for adults.'

'Whether it affects other parts of your life
If porn is stopping you from spending time with friends, family or enjoying other things then it can help to take a break from watching it.'

'Finding out that someone you care about watches porn can be shocking sometimes, especially if it’s a family member or someone you’re in a relationship with.'

'Watching porn when you’re under 18 isn’t against the law and you shouldn’t have to feel worried or ashamed about it. You won’t get in trouble if you watch it yourself.'

'There are a lot of reasons you might want to share porn. You might want to watch porn with a boyfriend or girlfriend, trade porn or share porn with a friend as a joke'

For info... 'Childline is here to help anyone under 19 in the UK with any issue they’re going through.'

Ok so 17 18 yo is different to 6yo. But the stuff above seems to me to be aimed at an older age group.

The adverts usually show younger children calling for help.

I doubt many 18 year olds would think of childline if they had a problem they'd be looking at resources for adults surely.

So in the context that it's for primary, and secondary, all the way through.

How does that advice sound.

On so many of the sites aimed at children and young people the advice seems to be written with an older age group in mind, and from a male perspective.

FAPZ FFS harhar

And sharing porn with friends as a joke... IME this is done primarily by males. And the 'joke' is almost always a woman doing something revolting, degrading or that looks incredibly painful.

Yes kids need to learn about porn.

This is not the right approach.

When I talk to my kids about this stuff I don't start my saying it's totally fine and normal, really common, nothing to worry about.

They're not encouraging children to watch porn.

Oh. Right. The lighthearted way of starting this video talking about ‘pornography is as fun to watch as it is as hard to forget’ is not the first thing that anyone watching this is going to remember despite all the well intentioned but patchy information that follows?. But still maintaining a light hearted and jocular mood and stating clearly that watching porn under 18 is not illegal in the UK.

The messaging here is an incredible fail. I am sure it is attempting to not shame anyone, but fails to convey the severity of the issues. The breezy, lighthearted approach that ends with ‘have fun’ counters any of the messaging.

I mean part four starts to get there but part five obliterates it with ‘as long as know what you are watching, enjoy it in moderation and you are not doing anything illegal, you’ll be fine. Have fun!’

Yeah... they are not encouraging kids to watch porn. At all. Not even the ‘fun’ porn.....

Did you even watch the video?

In the news at the moment

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56640178

'One in eight porn videos promoted to first-time users of the UK's leading adult sites are labelled with text describing sexually violent acts, according to a study.

It analysed titles and descriptions of 131,738 videos on Pornhub, XVideos and XHamster's launch pages.

One researcher said the prevalence of descriptions of rape, physical abuse and incest was "shocking".'

I'm talking about the original poster. You are obsessed

I see you are incapable of addressing any of my points.

@MissBarbary

But that's not the argument that was being made

Do you have reading and comprehension issues?

I've mentioned the failure to mention trafficking in almost every post.

Yes, it is glaringly obvious just how limited the ‘dark side’ was. It is also very telling what the intention of the poster who thinks this is a successful way to communicate the issues is.

I mean, they told us straight upfront when any person who expressed concern was labeled a ‘pearl clutcher’.

Sadly, your very well articulated point will be ignored by a few posters, but will be supported by many other posters and by many readers.

Yes kids need to learn about porn. yes

This is not the right approach. most certainly not.

@Helleofabore

They're not encouraging children to watch porn.

Oh. Right. The lighthearted way of starting this video talking about ‘pornography is as fun to watch as it is as hard to forget’ is not the first thing that anyone watching this is going to remember despite all the well intentioned but patchy information that follows?. But still maintaining a light hearted and jocular mood and stating clearly that watching porn under 18 is not illegal in the UK.

The messaging here is an incredible fail. I am sure it is attempting to not shame anyone, but fails to convey the severity of the issues. The breezy, lighthearted approach that ends with ‘have fun’ counters any of the messaging.

I mean part four starts to get there but part five obliterates it with ‘as long as know what you are watching, enjoy it in moderation and you are not doing anything illegal, you’ll be fine. Have fun!’

Yeah... they are not encouraging kids to watch porn. At all. Not even the ‘fun’ porn.....

Did you even watch the video?

The video quite clearly starts from the premise that children will be watching porn and porn is on the whole, normal enjoyable fun.

The reference to "you are 18" is so jokingly insincere.

I agree missbarbary.

It starts and ends with that message.

That it is fun. And it is ‘fine’.

It is a complete and utter message fail.

This video is awful, chirpy chappy making it all fun, even the bits where he points out its all not fun are really just an aside.

The bit where he encourages children to google porn terms if bad enough but the bit where he says to the camera "you are 18 right" and a little girls voice, sounds about 8 or 9 says "yes" absolutely turned my stomach.

This is grooming in plain sight, being supported by our national children's charity.