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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Spectator article about Eddie Izard

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RedRonnie · 02/04/2021 21:00

www.spectator.co.uk/article/eddie-izzard-and-the-denigration-of-women?fbclid=IwAR2ZoGLQmGJLSDTsJ03Gf1SyCYx6k9cLE-5lbWf7LhBTFvIJsHKZQPxwqAU

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RedRonnie · 02/04/2021 21:02

From December but really put into words how I feel in a much more eloquent way.

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GNCQ · 02/04/2021 21:05

Well, another man gets it.

GNCQ · 02/04/2021 21:06

Sorry, I mean another person with a penis gets it.

RedRonnie · 02/04/2021 21:09

It seems so obvious!

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SapphosRock · 02/04/2021 21:09

Interesting article!
I have also wondered why identifying into a different sex is celebrated but identifying into a different race is offensive.

If a person claimed to be assigned white at birth but their authentic self was black or held up placards at pride saying
'Black is white, white is black, non binary skin is valid' everyone would think they had gone mad.

Maybe that's what 2030 will look like.

AdaFuckingShelby · 02/04/2021 21:10

Sums it up nicely. I identify as a 6 foot blonde from Sweden. You must see me as that despite the evidence that I am in fact a short brunette from Britain.

picknmix1984 · 02/04/2021 21:11

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Sexnotgender · 02/04/2021 21:12

Couldn’t agree more with all of that.

Kenshi · 02/04/2021 21:21

What if I just identify as vaccinated when the passports are required?

CongealedCrags · 02/04/2021 21:21

He's got it. What is the difference?

buckeejit · 02/04/2021 21:27

I admired him years ago but never really liked him. He seems desperate to stay relevant. The marathons was crazy but great that he did something good, although felt a bit narcissistic.

I've hoped he was going to say this was an elaborate hoax. He was a bit interesting as a man in makeup but he's just a big letdown. Has he explained anywhere why he suddenly thinks he's a she?

WindyPudding · 02/04/2021 21:46

Well said Brendan. I like how non-nonsense and clear that article is, and I hope that becomes more widespread. We should be allowed to talk about reality and it’s bizarre how that is simply being taken away from us.

Erkrie · 02/04/2021 21:59

Good article. And yes very true.

PineappleCakes · 02/04/2021 22:08

All true, well said. Thanks for the link.

IDanielRadcliffe · 02/04/2021 22:11

He does write well on this topic - he did a good piece on Elliot Page too.

LizzieSiddal · 02/04/2021 22:13

I have also wondered why identifying into a different sex is celebrated but identifying into a different race is offensive.

Misogyny.

Novina · 02/04/2021 22:41

I have also wondered why identifying into a different sex is celebrated but identifying into a different race is offensive.

I listened to DFW (guilty feminist) interview EI and she touched on this point. She said the reason Dolezal identifying as black wasn't ok was because Dolezal wasn't half black to begin with, whereas we are all half male and female, because that's what our parents are!! And then she added the caveat "unless you have 2 biological fathers" - yes, she actually said that.

It was noticable that EI went straight into waffle/fantasy/distraction whenever a potentially difficult issue came up.

CroydianSlip · 02/04/2021 22:45

Did Eddie Izzard say that or DFW?

LunaNorth · 02/04/2021 22:48

Well that’s bollocks, considering we all came from one woman in Africa originally.

They just make it up as they go along, don’t they?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 02/04/2021 22:53

Well I couldn’t take 6 minutes to midnight seriously. He was running across that beach like a pensioner with lumbago escaping a care home. Shame, could have been good.

HopeClearwater · 02/04/2021 22:56

because Dolezal wasn't half black to begin with, whereas we are all half male and female, because that's what our parents are

???
Does this mean that once I’ve got through the menopause, I’ve got prostate cancer to worry about?

Stopsnowing · 02/04/2021 22:57

Really good article!

OppsUpsSide · 02/04/2021 23:00

So if you have two biological fathers you can’t be trans? So children of trans people can’t be trans?? I don’t think that’s going to fly.

Novina · 02/04/2021 23:01

CroydianSlip it was DFW.

AtrociousCircumstance · 02/04/2021 23:03

Excellent article.

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