English teacher tells class that JKR is transphobic

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Just that really.
I'm absolutely fuming.
30 kids now "hate" JKR apparently.
This is an abuse of influence surely, not to mention a worrying lack of critical thinking.
I've printed out the "transphobic" tweets so my Y7 child can make up their own mind. With a lot of ranting from me in the background .

Why is it always couched as "the transphobes say women will be at risk from trans people attacking them!!1!" ....

When what women are usually saying is "creating loopholes and sacred castes who cannot be questioned will allow PREDATORS to attack women"? It may be that not a single one of those predators are actually trans, but exploiting the safeguarding loopholes.

Is it just well-meaning stupidity, or is it a deliberate attempt to silence any talk about how to protect vulnerable people from predatory people?

I would absolutely complain to the school. Outrageous.

There is an increasingly rampant breed of ideologically possessed of teachers out there, and the woke (hate that word) inter-sectionalist rhetoric regularly spewed out in schools and universities now makes me truly fear the future. The world has gone collectively mad, it’s so depressing.

SunbeamRapier
Written by an author who in real life believes that bad men will dress as women to attack. Transphobic.

It is true. There are bad men who will dress as women to attack. Transphobia would be extrapolating that fact to suggest that all men who dress as women are bad. It is not JKR who has made that assumption here.

@SunbeamRapier

Bizarre! I read the full book the week it came out, and if you can’t see the stark (no pun intended) implication from one of the character’s background and mode of getting close to his victims, while bearing in mind what JK had been banging on about for two years, then you’re being disingenuous, in my opinion. The fact he’s not the big baddie is irrelevant. The message is there.

How is "Stark" a pun? Are you getting it mixed up with "Strike"?

Exactly, Thomas!

It's predatory shitheads exploiting a loophole that are the problem. Maybe none of them are actually trans, I don't know and don't care!

Saying that predatory offenders will use whatever means they can to access victims is not transphobic.

@SunbeamRapier

Read it too. Killer dresses as woman to attack. Written by an author who in real life believes that bad men will dress as women to attack. Transphobic.

Is that what you think trans people are then? Men that dress as women?

You do realise that there is no clothing requirement for a male who wishes to identify as female? Just look at Danielle Muscato.

Maybe reread your comment and you might understand that you actually agree with JK - this is her point, if anyone is allowed to 'identify as a woman' (and access female single sex spaces which is the current demand), that is a risk to women and children's safety.

OP, I thought about this overnight and I do find it horrifying that a teacher could do that to a class of children - it is such a nasty thing to do. Many of those children will have grown up loving Harry Potter etc and that teacher has attempted to destroy their view of a beloved author with utterly unfounded lies.

I hope you feel able to approach the school in some capacity as this is so sad.

I agree Gardenbird. It’s sad & nasty.

SunbeamRapier

I don't think you have read the book , given your description of what's in it.

Blaire White has read it.

JKR has been the object of lies and of mob attack for telling her story. Anyone who does not condemn that outright, and does not seek to teach our young that this is not a civilised way to operate should take a long hard look in the mirror.

It’s an interesting case study for students though - a look at what was said Vs the rumours, here say and gossip whipped up by people who ‘heard’ but haven’t actually looked for themselves.

Yes, like we studied the role of newspaper reports in the Irish troubles to look at bias, in GCSE history.

I’d hate to have to teach that these days - can you imagine a class of social media warriors actually listening to both sides to hearing something negative about the Tic Tok gods?

@toffeebutterpopcorn

It’s an interesting case study for students though - a look at what was said Vs the rumours, here say and gossip whipped up by people who ‘heard’ but haven’t actually looked for themselves.

definitely. There was that 'educational' resource issued over the first lockdown that presented an entirely one-sided view of JK's work - as I remember they basically said JK is evil and transphobic. End of.

I can't remember exactly where it was now but I think it was withdrawn after a fuss.

The trouble is, as with so much on this specific topic, people seem to lose all sense of objectivity. My DCs RE classes have moral debates on various topics all the time - discussing and debating, even with quite challenging views is a huge part of their education. The teacher is scrupulous not to present their own views but to keep the debate respectful and well-reasoned.

I can't imagine that that English teacher would present such a one-sided, biased view on any other topic (although maybe they would and are actually in the wrong job ). That teacher needs someone to have proper words with them about their approach on this.

My DCs learnt PEEing in primary school!! (Point, Evidence, Explain)

Something negative about the Tic Tok gods?

My child's friends send her tik toks as evidence for JKs transphobia. She tells them to go and find some proper resources for evidence and then they'll talk. They of course never do. Seeking out online classes for critical thought for her clearly worked.

The teacher is making a perfectly valid claim in my opinion and I entirely agree with them.

Not that they really need to bother - loads of young people already think JKR is a transphobe.

Here's a detailed analysis of the alleged transphobia:

katymontgomerie.medium.com/addressing-the-claims-in-jk-rowlings-justification-for-transphobia-7b6f761e8f8f

[quote Shizuku]The teacher is making a perfectly valid claim in my opinion and I entirely agree with them.

Not that they really need to bother - loads of young people already think JKR is a transphobe.

Here's a detailed analysis of the alleged transphobia:

katymontgomerie.medium.com/addressing-the-claims-in-jk-rowlings-justification-for-transphobia-7b6f761e8f8f[/quote]
Oooh you are back. Have you read the book? I don’t think anyone can comment unless they have read her books. Otherwise it’s bullying really because you don’t have the facts. But thanks for your link anyway.

@toffeebutterpopcorn
Your spoiler alert!!!! Why!!! Ffs I was in the middle of the book!
Bloody hell Sunbeam, your stupid assertions have really annoyed me now and not just because someone felt the need to correct your nonsense by putting a spoiler in, but because you are wilfully and deliberately misrepresenting a woman who is concerned with safeguarding. Why aren’t YOU worried about safeguarding? Why are you obsessed with men being able to have free access to women’s spaces and with children taking puberty blockers?! I am concerned with anyone who thinks it is ok to do this to children and you will find that most people when they find out what has been happening will come down hard in opposition to it.
What about the women in prisons being assaulted by tw? And do you actually have children? Or are you just here to attempt to assert your ideological belief on mothers who know the truth about biology?

@Shizuku - Hello - here you pop up again. Maybe you could go back to the other thread where you completely ignored loads of reasonable questions? BTW if you read this thread you would see that people are saying that teachers should be impartial and teach critical reading skills. Do you disagree with that too?

It was a children's educational website called The Day @gardenbird48

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/23/childrens-news-website-apologises-jk-rowling-trans-tweet-day

I know someone who dressed as a women to rob banks. I've now put it in written word. Does that make me transphobic?

@ Wandawomble - I didn’t say which book... and you won’t guess anyway. Or maybe there is just a red last herring. Or maybe I’m telling stories (sorry.....)

[quote Shizuku]The teacher is making a perfectly valid claim in my opinion and I entirely agree with them.

Not that they really need to bother - loads of young people already think JKR is a transphobe.

Here's a detailed analysis of the alleged transphobia:

katymontgomerie.medium.com/addressing-the-claims-in-jk-rowlings-justification-for-transphobia-7b6f761e8f8f[/quote]
Mmm. A detailed analysis from Monty which includes the words 'dogwhistle' and 'transphobia', presented as fact, in the first paragraph.

For a credible argument you need something a bit more balanced and dare I say it, analytical.

And now, mindful of Bunbury's wise words, am hiding this thread. Strongly suspect it's going to turn into one of those circular borefests.

@Shizuku
You can also stop trying to tell women who have had children and who are quite aware of what biology is that we are wrong. Your ideological beliefs have no magical power here. Again I will ask you, do you have children? I don’t think you have the slightest understanding of biology, science or safeguarding and you are wilfully trying to break down the safeguarding barriers by vilifying a woman who is talking about her concerns.

@toffeebutterpopcorn

@ Wandawomble - I didn’t say which book... and you won’t guess anyway. Or maybe there is just a red last herring. Or maybe I’m telling stories (sorry.....)