"Hundreds defy ban to attend Clapham vigil"

[TheRabbitOfCaerbannog]

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sarah-everard-vigil-defy-police-ban-clapham-common-b923959.html

Nick the lot of them the rules apply to everyone irrespective of the circumstances

I assume you include Kate Middleton in that.

@Whydidimarryhim

Bloody disgusting treatment of women by men again!!! The police is filled with men of low intelligence who do not know how to deescalate a situation and go in heavy handed. Lots of bullies and narrow minded men. It is only a 13 week course to start your training. Very basic. If police women had handled this situation it would have remained peaceful. Something needs to be done - but what - It is run by a female - where is she? The police will spin it - violent protesters - breaking COVID rules - bla bla bla. It will be interesting to see the press tomorrow. Maybe men are feeling threatened!!! We’ve had ME TOO - Black Lives Matter - what about Women Matter Sleep well every one.

Share your outrage at what happened to Sarah Everard and how vulnerable many feel in our world. Can’t believe this event couldn’t have been policed better with hindsight.

However I take issue with the low intelligence, basic level of training and generalised remarks about male and female police officers. Not a reflection of what I know from former students and friends in the police, and personal experience.

Its so sad that
Sarah Everard
and women like her
the victims of MALE VIOLENCE
have again been dragged into the mess that is identity politics.

Kate Cambridge was a much more appropriate visitor to Clapham than the hate crew later son

@ShaneTheThird

Is shocking that the police want it stopped claiming covid laws when they could have helped organise it. I am so glad kate middleton attended to pay her respects and Buckingham palace made a statement saying she too used to feel unsafe walking london streets alone at night. Even the future queen of england is onboard with it.

The irony! Kate will have been with an armed plain clothes protection officer (female) .

Sorry but that mass meeting in defiance of covid safety, was just as wrong as when football fans did the same thing in Glasgow last week. People will get ill as a result and families will suffer . If Cressida Dick is forced to resign, well congratulations candle bearers; what a great result for women and justice in a male-dominated service. Some memorial that would be.

They were breaking the law!!!! End of. I wouldn't be allowed to take a group of my associates and protest in our local park. Why should they be able to do so. I do think their cause is good but their tactic are awful. How must the parents of Sarah eel knowing that her death has bought about this disgusting demonstration. These demonstrators have degraded her by not needing the advice of the Police and protested by contributing money to the fund, which could be put to good use in achieving our goal. I think these people has done a lot of damage to the cause instead of gaining more support. None of us should be allowed to break the law however good and deserving the cause.

On the ITN news tonight it was clear that there was a group of balaclava wearing men intent on provocation. Why were there there..? I can’t imagine. More young men in the police being held back by others. Not a lot to do with women, what a surprise .

Kate likely had a fair number of people with her, if you include her security team, her publicity team, her drivers, and the invited press and photographers.

There is very little risk of spreading Covid outdoors with everyone wearing masks. The police increased the risk of Covid by kettling women and forcing physical contact.

It's hypocritical to praise Kate but condemn the local women.

2bazookas I agree, the mass meeting should not have taken place. You can’t choose which rule you decide is important and want to follow and which you think doesn’t matter. The attacker did that, and I hope no one would agree he was right.

I do think the police handled it badly. There was bound to be an outcry if they tried to break it up, but they shouldn’t have had to handle it at all.

@nannawend

They were breaking the law!!!! End of. I wouldn't be allowed to take a group of my associates and protest in our local park. Why should they be able to do so. I do think their cause is good but their tactic are awful. How must the parents of Sarah eel knowing that her death has bought about this disgusting demonstration. These demonstrators have degraded her by not needing the advice of the Police and protested by contributing money to the fund, which could be put to good use in achieving our goal. I think these people has done a lot of damage to the cause instead of gaining more support. None of us should be allowed to break the law however good and deserving the cause.

It’s weird that you know better than the high court judge who said on Friday that he couldn’t actually rule that they are breaking the law.

You’re wasted on MN with your amazing legal expertise! Go and make some more expert legal rulings, quick! Think of how many other problems you can solve...

Am I correct in thinking that Sisters Uncut were involved in the assault by Tara Wolf on a 60 year old feminist in London 2 years ago? Did they go to this vigil in order to disrupt it and demonstrate against the police?

@Anitarest

2bazookas I agree, the mass meeting should not have taken place. You can’t choose which rule you decide is important and want to follow and which you think doesn’t matter. The attacker did that, and I hope no one would agree he was right. I do think the police handled it badly. There was bound to be an outcry if they tried to break it up, but they shouldn’t have had to handle it at all.

Um, correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve read your post 3 times and you seem to be comparing the actions of someone who abducted, murdered and disposed of a young women, with people standing in a park.

Are you actually saying that? They are the same because they ‘choose not to follow rules’?

Disgraceful behaviour by protesters tonight
Selfish and disrespectful to Sarah
Go home and be thankful for what you have
The vigil round a bandstand turned into a selfish bandwagon

@2bazookas

A couple of days ago, Chris Witty and Patrick Valence were both giving evidence to MPs on the risk of outdoor transmission.
Both said the evidence now shows it doesn’t happen.

The direct quotes:

Patrick Vallance: “It is the case that it is difficult to see how things like large beach gatherings and so on can cause a spike. The same was the case in a protest march in New York. They did not really see any spikes after that.”

Chris Whitty: “I completely agree.”

So whatever view you have about protests, don’t use made up concerns about covid as an excuse please.

@rosetylersbiggun

Kate likely had a fair number of people with her, if you include her security team, her publicity team, her drivers, and the invited press and photographers.

There is very little risk of spreading Covid outdoors with everyone wearing masks. The police increased the risk of Covid by kettling women and forcing physical contact.

It's hypocritical to praise Kate but condemn the local women.

Kate Cambridge had 2 female security officers with her (very obvious in the video) the footage was by a Sky reporter who was there all day as were many many other press

I suspect they were as surprised as everybody else to see her march up
but as she's a former Clapham gel, her face told loads

if it had been PR, she would have smiled ....

Am I correct in thinking that Sisters Uncut were involved in the assault by Tara Wolf on a 60 year old feminist in London 2 years ago?

They certainly supported them in an outside court protest.

Did they go to this vigil in order to disrupt it and demonstrate against the police?

Yes.

@Lockupyourbiscuits

Disgraceful behaviour by protesters tonight Selfish and disrespectful to Sarah Go home and be thankful for what you have The vigil round a bandstand turned into a selfish bandwagon

What disgraceful behaviour is there tonight?

I came back from the common about 20 mins ago, and there were about 200 people standing in silent contemplation with 3 police standing about 30m back from them also silently.

Unless you’re on a different Clapham Common to me...

Am I correct in thinking that Sisters Uncut were involved in the assault by Tara Wolf on a 60 year old feminist in London 2 years ago

Yes. They are TRAs through and through.

I came here to add my tuppence about the donations fiasco - people donating to certain groups without realising they are actually TRAs, then wanting their money back. TRAs are going apeshit on Twitter about that.

An analogy - you want to help people in a warzone, so you donate in good faith to a charity that is giving them food and shelter. Only after you've donated do you find out that the 'charity' is also buying arms for one of the sides in the conflict, and actually causing more pain to civilians than it's relieving. You obviously want your money back. Well... that's the kind of situation we are in.

I’m talking about central London
Sorry didn’t make it clear
From the vigil yesterday it has turned into protests in London today
I find that disrespectful ( not anyone in Clapham today )

Thanks Sparechange for your comments and encouragement and will take your advice to continue pursuing my legal career, solving as many problems as I can.

@andyoldlabour

Am I correct in thinking that Sisters Uncut were involved in the assault by Tara Wolf on a 60 year old feminist in London 2 years ago? Did they go to this vigil in order to disrupt it and demonstrate against the police?

Highly likely

When thousands of us lay down in Parliament Square this evening, we did so in tribute to the many women who have been killed by police officers, in prison or in state custody.

Here are their names. #194andcounting
twitter.com/SistersUncut/status/1371163308997361666?s=19

Posted too soon^ So yes, Sisters Uncut have their own agenda

GappyValley, of course I’m not saying the attacker was right. It’s never right to attack someone else and even worse to murder them.

Are you saying that people should have the right to choose which rules they should follow and which the can ignore because they don’t like them or think they rule is stupid?

Some issues with the SistersUncut list.

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1371171776508616707?s=20

[quote NotTerfNorCis]Some issues with the SistersUncut list.

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1371171776508616707?s=20[/quote]
Quelle surprise.