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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jack Monroe

90 replies

FootSticklebricks · 13/03/2021 08:56

Solidarity with Jack Monroe, who is a great human being who does some wonderful things. Hugely brave of her to tell this. Yet another example of police ignoring women reporting crimes. And another reminder to remain sensitive to the complex reasons female bodied people may not always feel good about being female bodied.

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ArabellaScott · 13/03/2021 12:42

Christ, poor woman. Flowers for Jack. Absolutely horrific.

ChateauMargaux · 13/03/2021 12:47

@Gurufloof I am so sorry to read your story. What a life to have to live under that weight of fear. How awful that you have to go to extreme lengths to stay clear of him and never feel like you are safe. How awful that you cannot tell people because it won't help. I wish you peace and I know that doesn't make it so.

I cried reading Jack's story.

Weirdfan · 13/03/2021 12:48

I honestly can't take any more of this, that's fucking broken me just reading it, imagine living through it. Third time I've cried today already and in between I'm just so angry, not sure which is worse.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 13/03/2021 13:08

I believe her. ♥️and 💐 for Jack.

CorvusPurpureus · 13/03/2021 13:39

Fuck. Ing. Hell.

I've had an awful week, which has culminated in a sudden unexpected attack by my vile ex (you know how in cheesy horror movies there's a final jump scare when the killer suddenly turns out NOT to be dead & the heroine has to kill him AGAIN? Like that.)

I'm just so fucking over men & their shit. Poor Jack Flowers

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2021 16:51

Guru, I'm so sorry. Flowers

Impatiens · 13/03/2021 16:58

@SenecaTrewe

Just awful. Poor Jack. I've been given warnings on here for criticising the police, but I will risk it. They are a massively corrupt sexist and racist organisation.
I'll stand with you on that.
NiceGerbil · 13/03/2021 16:58

What a harrowing read.

That poor woman.

And yes the police have enormous form for not giving a shit and nothing ever happens to change that.

All those women who had reported DV were murdered. Police oh dear whoops soz. Lessons learned. Yeah right.

EwwSprouts · 13/03/2021 17:29

The cumulative effect... Flowers
The can't be bothered of the police.
I hope Cressida Dick publicly steps up now and says this is a long-term priority.
So glad Jack had at least a few good people in her life.

colouringindoors · 13/03/2021 17:52

Corvus 💐💐💐

PegasusReturns · 13/03/2021 17:55

Should we all just report every micro aggression? I will from now on

It’s very tempting. I think the reason we don’t is that by the time we understand and are brave enough to report we’ve already experienced so much and I honestly think we’re inured to it: why would we report the idiot touching our leg at a work dinner, when we have already suffered a decade of catcalling, lewd comments, unsolicited gropes and that’s just if we’re lucky, when we know the odds are stacked against us and the consequences likely more serious for us than them.

The first time a man masturbated in front of me I was 7. I didn’t even understand what he was going until years later. If the first time I’d experienced sex based harassment or violence was 27, my response would have been totally different but by the time we’re old enough to rationalise and understand we’re worn down and fed up.

ShirleyPhallus · 13/03/2021 18:01

What an awful thread, poor Jack

CattyCactus · 13/03/2021 18:05

Jesus. That’s a horrific read. And has obviously gone on for years and years. Poor Jack.

colouringindoors · 13/03/2021 18:12

omg Guru I'm so sorry you're going
through such a nightmare.

I will be wishing something awful happens to that disgusting man.

FlowersFlowersFlowers

MoltenLasagne · 13/03/2021 18:17

@merrymouse

It sounds as though the perpetrator’s knowledge that the police won’t/can’t do anything becomes part of the abuse.
100% it does. Men who enjoy intimidating women love to walk the line of plausible deniability, knowing that if the police get involved they get the benefit of the doubt, whilst the girl/women is assumed to be overreacting.

The repeated inaction of the police leads such men to feel invulnerable and leads to escalation as they push to see how much more they can get away with. If low level sexual crimes were taken seriously and stamped down on, it would go a long way.

NativityDreaming · 13/03/2021 18:24

I felt sick reading that and knowing her abuser didn’t get arrested for his crimes. It hurts my heart knowing that her story and all the stories on social media are all too common.

Dingleydel · 13/03/2021 18:33

Poor Jack. Stalking is such an evil crime that so often goes unpunished. I hope this may be a major turning point in the way that police handle abuse towards women. Being very optimistic here.

OppsUpsSide · 13/03/2021 18:36

And the Police. Did. Nothing.

I would never be so foolish as to ask the police for help ever again.

StanfordPines · 13/03/2021 18:42

I read that earlier. It’s easy to see how something like that could completely destroy your mental health.
I don’t know what the answer is but believing women is a good start.

Jack does post on here and I messaged her directly here a few years ago when a poster here was all excited when they had worked out where Jack’s new house was after a couple of Instagram pictures of her moving house had been posted.

Gerla · 14/03/2021 08:18

Solidarity with Jack Flowers

Has anyone read Maggie O'Farrell's "I am, I am, I am"? Beautifully written and a real cautionary tale of the consequences of not listening to women when they know that a man is dangerous.

Gerla · 14/03/2021 08:24

Guru I'm so sorry that this happened to you. I think a lot of the problem is that men (and by extension those in charge) don't understand how stalking takes over your life - you can never not think about it. On the other hand, my husband was stalked for years and, rightly or wrongly, never really worried about it. Terrified me though.

KevinBaconsMoustache · 14/03/2021 08:30

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MsTSwift · 14/03/2021 08:58

Yes read that. I had a similar incident though not brush with death but with gang rape in a foreign country (India). The expression “gibbering in fear” is not a cliche I actually was. Thank god I escaped but it was a close call.

adviceseekingnamechanger · 14/03/2021 09:02

That was horrifying to read. Solidarity and praise to Jack for finding the courage to speak about it.

womanity · 14/03/2021 10:27

Jack 💐

My god.

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