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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tuesday 9th March - could be a big day

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Xanthangum · 08/03/2021 18:01

  1. Helen Staniland and Glinner giving evidence to the Commons
  1. Fair Play For Women VS UK Statistics Authority at Royal Courts of Justice at 10am
  1. The Court of Appeal and Harry/ We Are Fair Cop - The Court of Appeal will examine the validity of the College of Police Hate Crimes Guidance

I wanted to start a thread where any major decisions or outcomes and links to anyone live tweeting or online footage. See you back here tomorrow!

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OvaHere · 09/03/2021 14:35

I think he means legal sex either birth cert or GRC.
But not passport as those documents don’t record sex, but gender identity.

(Which is really all a GRC does, but is legally recognised.)

Statisticians can work with that data because there are records of GRC holders. The passport office has no idea (as the recently admitted) how many people have changed the sex marker on their passport.

WeAreJackieWeaver · 09/03/2021 14:35

Judge: I find it surprising that ONS says that1/5 of households have already completed the census when it is clear that census day is 21st March

Grin
ArabellaScott · 09/03/2021 14:35

'surprising' = bullshit, doesn't it?

FlibbertyGiblets · 09/03/2021 14:35

Yes many thanks all, you amazing superwomen.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 09/03/2021 14:35

Staff training to say 'sex' means the sex you where born. Hmm

As PP pointed out, all the males gloating that they put 'female' as their sex are going to make it look like there are more females so more funding, healthcare, refuges etc for us. Shooting themselves in the foot.

highame · 09/03/2021 14:35

^ my thoughts exactly m'lord

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/03/2021 14:35

Judge: ONS's claim that sex can be worked back from the gender identity question is speculative. "Cart tries to drive the horse" /76

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/03/2021 14:36

Statisticians can work with that data because there are records of GRC holders. The passport office has no idea (as the recently admitted) how many people have changed the sex marker on their passport.

Yes that's a key point.

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 09/03/2021 14:36

"There is no dispute that sex is an important demographic variable"*

Amen

RedDogsBeg · 09/03/2021 14:36

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Judge: I find it surprising that ONS says that1/5 of households have already completed the census when it is clear that census day is 21st March /75
Yet more 'surprises' for the Judge.
ArabellaScott · 09/03/2021 14:36

Judge: ONS's claim that sex can be worked back from the gender identity question is speculative. "Cart tries to drive the horse" /76

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/03/2021 14:36

Judge: Interim relief GRANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /77

Datun · 09/03/2021 14:36

judge: There is no dispute that sex is an important demographic variable /74

It's just a normal bit of normalness . He must think he's talking to a kindergarten.

Xpectations · 09/03/2021 14:36

@PineappleCakes

I'm not on Twitter so thank you to those who've been relaying the tweets here GinBrew

And of course thanks to FPFW for their hard work and live tweeting ✊

Agreed, thanks to all for updating, and especially FPFW for bringing this case to clarify legal sex.
FindTheTruth · 09/03/2021 14:36

Judge: ONS's claim that sex can be worked back from the gender identity question is speculative. "Cart tries to drive the horse" /76

Fallingirl · 09/03/2021 14:36

INTERIM RELIEF GRANTED!!!!!

PronounssheRa · 09/03/2021 14:36

Interim relief granted!

ArabellaScott · 09/03/2021 14:37

YES! YES!

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 09/03/2021 14:37

Wonderful.

UtopiaPlanitia · 09/03/2021 14:37

Why can’t judges do a TLDR at the start of their judgement Shock Refreshing Twitter while hoping for a final result is so nerve wracking!!!

Bowednotbroken · 09/03/2021 14:37

Thank goodness!

FindTheTruth · 09/03/2021 14:37

Judge: Interim relief GRANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /77

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/03/2021 14:37

Someone needs to remind.me now what "interim relief" means

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 09/03/2021 14:37

It is a win on two grounds:-

  1. Data quality - no self determination of sex either birth certificate or GRC.
  2. The concerns raised about institutional capture have again been shown to be justified.
WeAreJackieWeaver · 09/03/2021 14:37

Get the fuck in! Well done FPFW

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