Conservatives for Women

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Found this, earlier today — the Conservatives for Women website:

conservativesforwomen.org

Their proposals could have been written here on Mumsnet. I'm now, for the first time in my life, having to consider whether instead of just spoiling my ballot I'm going to have to vote Conservative to keep Labour and the Lib Dems out.

@gardenbird48

Thank you for your work *@ConservativesForWomen* - my Conservative MP is supportive of women’s rights so there is no question about my vote.

If the other parties can’t even acknowledge my existence as a woman there is no earthly point in my voting for them. They are actually promising to remove women’s rights - how can I do that to my daughters? It would be like being one of the anti-suffragette women.

I agree. The main UK political parties used to be broad churches, even the LibDems although they were always 100% pro-Europe/EU. This is clearly no longer the case, when recent Labour leadership candidates choose to announce that anyone who supports women's sex-based rights is transphobic and should be expelled from the party. That being the case they should not be surprised when women decide to move their vote to the 'least captured' of the main parties. Maybe we should join up to influence how things move forward....I haven't as yet.

Really? I doubt you could find a labour MP from 40 years ago who shares Raabs regressive views let alone the majority of labour, or for that matter any party, now. Well, maybe in the Brexit Party

The majority of labour do hold regressive views when it comes to women. They can't even name what they are. If women dont have the words to describe what they are, then they have no legal protections. I expect Rosie Duffield would have a few things to say about the regressive nature of the labour party after the onslaught of hate towards her from labour for defining what a woman is. Keir starmer did not step in to support her. That tells you all you need to know with regards to what labour think about women.

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@RozWatching

I think it's naive to think that Labour's stupidity would somehow be limited to women's rights. The apparent lack of critical thinking is a massive red flag.

Yes, this is something that maybe should be more spelled out. The left hasn't just fallen into this stuff by chance, it's part of a larger change in their thinking. So if it's wrong, that is not just a small thing.

Thank you for this thread. I have never voted Tory and as I grew up in a coal mining area, under Section 28 and the Poll Tax nonsense in Scotland I genuinely never entertained the idea.

However, that manifesto is exactly what I want.

Hell mend Labour, Greens and Lib Dems, I've voted for all of them over the years - but they are treating me and my sex class with contempt.

Fucking idiots, the lot of them. I'm very, very close to voting Tory because there is no issue which is bigger to me than women's rights to single sex spaces. If you can't define sex you can't define harms against hat sex class. Who benefits from that? It's not the fucking women who need the protections, that's for sure.

It's not a single issue for me. It is about how some political parties allowed themselves to be captured by an anti-reality belief system, a theology it seems to me. Labour, Lib Dems and Greens have shown that their decision making structures are fucked. Conservatives are taking steps to sort their shit out whereas the others are trapped in a purity spiral with no sign of a move back towards reality.

It is about how some political parties allowed themselves to be captured by an anti-reality belief system, a theology it seems to me. Labour, Lib Dems and Greens have shown that their decision making structures are fucked. Conservatives are taking steps to sort their shit out whereas the others are trapped in a purity spiral with no sign of a move back towards reality.

Well put, and I agree. There are a whole lot of very large and serious issues tied up in that, including the responsibilities and duties of public office, and safeguarding procedures that should be in place to protect govt bodies from ending up in this mess.

I have am horrified at how some mainstream political parties enabled, encouraged and elevated anti-science beliefs.

We are facing challenges like climate change, antibiotic resistance and pandemics. I don't want political parties in charge who are easily swayed by stoner science.

I don't want leaders to whom "doing the research" and "educating themselves" means obsessively following lobbyists on social media.

Just had a look and membership is only £25 a year. Will sleep on it
I've already signed up for the mailing list, I'm feeling like we're at a pivotal moment for women's rights. I sent ten thank you cards to the speakers in House of Lords debate from a couple of weeks ago today and feel like ramping up my (admittedly low) political activism!

@30PercentRecycled

It's not a single issue for me. It is about how some political parties allowed themselves to be captured by an anti-reality belief system, a theology it seems to me. Labour, Lib Dems and Greens have shown that their decision making structures are fucked. Conservatives are taking steps to sort their shit out whereas the others are trapped in a purity spiral with no sign of a move back towards reality.

The SNP in Sootland have been captured as well. Although they would never get my vote anyway.

Sorry Scotland lol.

This may be of interest- some names to look out for perhaps

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-to-benefit-in-feminist-boris-johnsons-cabinet-reshuffle-538sk2zbp?shareToken=5ca54a3b311b475d3a344b789f8867a8

[quote ErrolTheDragon]This may be of interest- some names to look out for perhaps

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-to-benefit-in-feminist-boris-johnsons-cabinet-reshuffle-538sk2zbp?shareToken=5ca54a3b311b475d3a344b789f8867a8[/quote]
Thanks for the article. Kemi Badenoch will be a great asset I think. Lucy Frazer is a worry (if I’m thinking of the right person) - she has defended the MoJ position on rapists in women’s prisons a d said she would make the same decision even with all the info available

@MichelleofzeResistance

It is about how some political parties allowed themselves to be captured by an anti-reality belief system, a theology it seems to me. Labour, Lib Dems and Greens have shown that their decision making structures are fucked. Conservatives are taking steps to sort their shit out whereas the others are trapped in a purity spiral with no sign of a move back towards reality.

Well put, and I agree. There are a whole lot of very large and serious issues tied up in that, including the responsibilities and duties of public office, and safeguarding procedures that should be in place to protect govt bodies from ending up in this mess.

Absolutely this.

@DaisiesandButtercups

Whatever Raab privately believes at the very least I haven’t heard of him publicly denouncing Jackie Doyle Price, Kemi Badenoch and Liz Truss, nor has he called for them to be disciplined or removed from ministerial posts. I am no fan of Dominic Raab but the behaviour of those in the Labour Party towards Rosie Duffield and others has been disturbing and eye opening. For me I think it is important to consider the culture in the party as a whole and the hostility, toxic levels of control and climate of fear in the Labour Party right now is a contrast with the apparent freedom of the other lot to speak up on “this important issue” as Kemi Badenoch put it.

This, exactly this.