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Courage Calls to Courage Everywhere

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Uhohmummy · 04/03/2021 14:07

As a long time lurker I want to post a positive message of thanks to the amazing women (and men) of FWR who have opened my eyes to so many important issues. The fight for women’s rights can be exhausting and there are so many brick walls but just by talking about these issues you are making a difference. I suspect there are many like me who don’t often post on here but take on board a lot of what is discussed and use it to spread the message in our own lives, educating our children, donating where we can, etc. Please keep going. And thanks.

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Sophoclesthefox · 05/03/2021 10:20

Look at all these witches that just don’t burn Grin

More power to you all!

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BusterBluth · 05/03/2021 10:53

Another saying I love:
We are the granddaughters of the witches your ancestors couldn’t burn.

The rage and fury on twaw that bubbles and spills over in Twitter mutuals who are otherwise lovely, calm and reasoned people shocks me every time.

Shania Twain came on the radio the other day - Man I Feel Like a Woman, and the line ‘man shirts short skirts’ made me think - is part of the current issue that men think we’ve had “too much” of their ‘stuff’ already? And now they want a piece of what they consider our pie?
That women are allowed to wear what we want (more so than men), that we want equal pay, to be seen as equal. Is this mantra calling part of the push-back? Is it men saying: you’ve had enough now, we’re coming for some of what you’ve got?

I don’t apply this to true trans people btw, but to the ball-swinging, loud and threatening men who scream TWAW in women’s faces (no-one ever cares about trans men, do they?)
It’s about men winning.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/03/2021 10:55

It’s about men winning.

I misread that as "men whining".

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Sophoclesthefox · 05/03/2021 10:56

@Ereshkigalangcleg

It’s about men winning.

I misread that as "men whining".

Well....Grin
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GreenIcing · 05/03/2021 10:59

Serial name changer and mostly lurker on FWR, but I bloody love this place.

Every single day without fail I learn something from you all, and I feel a lot less lonely in my GC views.

There is definitely power in numbers and in unity. Solidarity, sisters!

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andyoldlabour · 05/03/2021 11:09

Chapeau to all you brilliant women on this forum and all the others out there, who are fighting the good fight!

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zzizzer · 05/03/2021 11:34

If it was effectively six posters then MNHQ would have shut this section down a long time ago.

I reckon they've done enough analysis on site traffic, repeat visits, and posting history to know that FWR membership is significant for Mumsnet.

If there was a way I could pay for premium anonymously then I would. As it is, even though I'm grateful for this platform, I don't trust them enough with my personal details like that. All it needs is another Emma intern and it would all be downloaded and used.

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Nobu · 05/03/2021 11:44

I am very grateful to have a space where there is a reasonable understanding of biology.
I am waiting for the contagion to fade in good company

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jhuizinga · 05/03/2021 11:45

I have always considered myself to be a feminist but have learned so much since I started reading FWR a couple of years ago. The fact that there is no FWR hive-mind and that posters come from such a wide range of backgrounds, experiences, even countries, and have so much expertise and knowledge is hugely valuable. Understanding the extent to which women's rights are under attack at the moment can sometimes become almost overwhelming, but the support, humour and generosity of the good women of FWR has always helped me to cope. As has the fact that there is always something practical which I can do whether it's writing to my MP, talking to friends about the issues or extensive gardening. So thank you, everyone who adds to the discussion whether regularly or just occasionally 🎉

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GreenIcing · 05/03/2021 11:47

@Nobu

I am very grateful to have a space where there is a reasonable understanding of biology.
I am waiting for the contagion to fade in good company

Waiting for the contagion to fade...I like that!
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Glamflimfloogety · 05/03/2021 14:18

@Ereshkigalangcleg

It’s about men winning.

I misread that as "men whining".

Still accurate Grin
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lifeturnsonadime · 05/03/2021 14:30

Well this is a lovely thread Flowers.

I have largely been a lurker and am very careful what I say now having had 2 strikes on the representation thread recently.

I first came here, under a different username, about 2 years ago and was firmly of the belief that TWAW was completely harmless. I didn't believe it was actually true but I felt (I have since realised through socialisation) that I needed to be kind. It was Datun's gentle handling of my posts which led me to conclude that being kind was in conflict with the rights of women and girls.

This is such an important space and I am grateful to Mumsnet for hosting in in such a hostile time for women's rights.

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ErrolTheDragon · 05/03/2021 15:06

I reckon they've done enough analysis on site traffic, repeat visits, and posting history to know that FWR membership is significant for Mumsnet.

Does anyone remember the thread MNHQ started which iirc simply asked what posters found valuable about the site. Zero leading questions.... what happened was, I think, unexpected to everyone- it was pretty much a massive FWR delurk. 'Came for the parenting, stayed for the feminism' was a pretty common theme.

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SpringCrocus · 05/03/2021 15:08

Another lurker, occasional poster, (although serial nc er) and keen letter writer/gardener.
Want to say Thank You and Brava to FWR Flowers

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IamEarthymama · 05/03/2021 15:12

I use FWR on MN as a wonderful resource and recommend it to everyone who has an interest in this important topic

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IamEarthymama · 05/03/2021 15:15

Oh damn,I was distracted by the dog!
Of course, I meant to say a HUGE Thank You to all the wonderful women who are so knowledgeable and who share that knowledge with us.
💐💐💐

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MaudTheInvincible · 05/03/2021 15:23

This is a lovely thread Thanks

To anyone thinking they aren't articulate or knowledgable enough to add anything I completely understand that feeling. Like many others I lurked on here for years before feeling sure enough of myself to actually post, and I still only post a little bit. I read FWR avidly though, and learn, and follow links, and read articles, and garden when I can, and always I am conscious of the warmth and strength of the sisterhood. As KJK said in a recent video, wearing is action, and whenever we raise our voice in support of someone whose post we agree with, or buy a tshirt, or make a donation we are contributing and helping to make a difference.

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shenanigans5 · 05/03/2021 15:25

@Lockdownennui

Great idea! I'm a frequent lurker and occasional poster and have learnt so much on here. I work in quite a woke environment and increasingly feel like an alien - it's such a relief to have a forum of women who share my concerns and support one another.

I feel exactly the same at work Flowers
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Whatstheweatherlike · 05/03/2021 15:28

Another lurker, occasional poster (and fairly regular name-changer). I come here every day, have learnt so much and am forever grateful for the wealth of information and links provided by others. Maybe one day I'll feel confident and knowledgeable enough to do the same for others.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you wise women of these boards. Your patience and knowledge is truly inspiring Flowers

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shenanigans5 · 05/03/2021 15:29

I only lurk too (but I’m a committed longterm lurker). But thank you to all of the amazingly brave women who take so much bloody abuse to defend women’s rights. I wish I had the gumption to join in.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/03/2021 15:30

Does anyone remember the thread MNHQ started which iirc simply asked what posters found valuable about the site. Zero leading questions.... what happened was, I think, unexpected to everyone- it was pretty much a massive FWR delurk. 'Came for the parenting, stayed for the feminism' was a pretty common theme.

I do, tried to find it by googling but no luck as I can't remember the exact title.

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Sophoclesthefox · 05/03/2021 15:36

I remember that thread too! Oh, it made a small number of poster furious Grin “you’re all lying!” “You’re all sock puppets!”, and wild accusations that feminists had somehow gamed the system, though it never was clear quite how...

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Terranean · 05/03/2021 15:37

Avid lurker and ocasional poster.
Came for baby stuff, buying advice and stay longer. Have appreciated the warmth and support on these threads when the topic that occupy so much of our time hit close to home and now that it has abated I keep supporting as I can . Donated to Susan Evans and Mrs A case because I understand how hard is for a parent to his gains to the flow in this matter despite your instinct saying you are right to protect your child from themselves until they are older.
💐💐💐 to the women on this board for the courage, intelligence, solidarity and humanity they show under such difficult circumstances.

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Terranean · 05/03/2021 15:40

To go against the flow! Post it instead of preview it!

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Wigglegiggle0520 · 05/03/2021 15:49

@MenopausalCrone

I'd like to add my gratitude to all the educators on FWR. I've learnt so much and have lost quite a bit of sleep over the knowledge you've all imparted. I've donated to all the campaigns that have been brought up and finally feel that I'm doing something positive rather than pulling my hair out and sitting around feeling frightened of the way the future seemed to be heading. Thank you so much xxx

Exactly this.

Thank you Flowers
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