Courage Calls to Courage Everywhere

[Uhohmummy]

As a long time lurker I want to post a positive message of thanks to the amazing women (and men) of FWR who have opened my eyes to so many important issues. The fight for women’s rights can be exhausting and there are so many brick walls but just by talking about these issues you are making a difference. I suspect there are many like me who don’t often post on here but take on board a lot of what is discussed and use it to spread the message in our own lives, educating our children, donating where we can, etc. Please keep going. And thanks.

Another occasional poster, regular lurker, reporting for duty

@Foxxinsoxx

Yes. Another lurker here to say thank you.

I have learnt SO much. And am in awe of the clarity, insight and evidence on this board. And wit as well.

Today I really wish Mumsnet had applause memes and like buttons for comments... they might have, and I'm not that au fait with MN.
But today, especially, anyone who has spoken up for women and girls rights, who has patiently explained why cis isn't for everyone and who has kept either patience or sense of humour or both... well, you're my sheroes today. You deserve a bottle of champagne. Keep.going.

Yes yes yes. I too mainly lurk but FWR women you are the best and have some too

I too lurk in the shadows. How you amazing women continue to engage sometimes is completely beyond me. It must be exhausting (it's exhausting just reading it sometimes) The level of willpower to not just shout "OH JUST FUCK OFF!! must be overwhelming.
I would love to post on some of the relentless threads to take some of the burden however I don't feel confident enough in my level of intelligence on these matters.
I think a lot of sunlight has been shone of late. 6 months ago I felt hopeless, now I see light at the end of the tunnel.

to you all. Thank you

@ErrolTheDragon

* We all get caught out by the special rules in the Feminism section of MN. I was deleted for saying "p* trans" (the 'P' stands for what we call the top of a mountain). Apparently the term isn't conducive to civil debate. *

It seems to being regularly deleted, but it's not mentioned in the talk guidelines so it's a bit unfair on posters, especially newer ones, who are likely to be oblivious - it's really not very obvious why this is a contentious phrase.

Goodness I had no idea that P*Trans was banned. When was this banned?

Yes, thank you everyone. This is a fabulous corner of the internet.

It's not technically banned - but over the last few months it seems to have become some sort of red flag that always gets reported and always gets deleted. I'm actually trying to persuade MNHQ to put it on the guidelines as it's tripping people up who don't realise it's 'uncivil', which is pretty unwelcoming to new posters like Foxx.

I want to add my thanks too. I mostly lurk, dipping my toe in the water with occasional posts, but I have learned so much from the knowledgeable, erudite, articulate, fucking brilliant women on here and I am so thankful.

@Foxxinsoxx

Apparently something I said wasn't allowed!?! Oh well I will carry on reading this board quietly, and speaking to people in real life.

Your post seemed fine to me, I quoted it to agree! Don’t be too put off

and thanks to you all

As for the trolls over the last few days, all I can day is that they've scored a massive own goal. From what I can see most of them seem to just throw out goady and unintelligible garbage that proves what the brave FWR posters are pointing out. They've probably converted quite a few fence sitters, but not in the way they hoped!

I agree - when my husband noticed Mumsnet trending on twitter last night it made him curious. He had a read and came to tell me, quite shocked about some of the vitriol directed towards women.

P*kTrans was the phrase that first sent me on my feminism journey.
I didn't get it, didn't understand what it meant, or what the problem was.

I remember a poster saying once you've p*k-ed you can't go back - and it's true.

This board is the reason I come here now. Came for the babies, stayed for the feminism.

The eloquence, intelligence, authority and - sadly - bravery of the women who post in FWR is astounding and inspiring. You're.a bunch of bloody good eggs.

Thanks @Sophoclesthefox and @ErrolTheDragon, I didn't realise that particular word (which I took to be a kind of short hand for having seen the light when confronted with the facts) was now banned. I understand that moderation is a tricky task and it's difficult to produce a definitive list of what is and isn't allowed, but if there are certain words which will always result in deletion, it would be useful to have a list of those!

Thank you to all of the posters here. I am not very good with words so I have not contributed until now, but I've found many posts both eloquent and insightful and some of the discussions here give me a lot to ponder well after they are done. I have learned a lot from all of you and I am grateful that this forum exists.

Love this site as well - I'm an American who couldn't find the equivalent of MN in my own enormous and loud country, so I'm incredibly grateful for the opportunity to be here and learn.

@ohohmummy
I was thinking the same. I've witnessed patience, elequence and determination on here this evening.
It's a hard road, but we are on it and will keep going, together.

I'm in Australia these days. The area I live in is awash with wokeness and I'm very isolated. MN FWR is so important to me. Nothing like that here.
I was shaped in consciousness raising groups in the UK in the early 90s and was lucky enough to read Women's Studies as part of my degree (when Women was still in the title).
This place is a solace to me. to all the women here

Women will never give in. We do not have penises. If you silence us here we will pop up elsewhere. We are the mothers, daughters, sisters, aunts & grandmothers. No-one exists without one of us. Fear our anger.

Ah this thread is a lovely breath of fresh air. Hello to all you lovely lurking women. It's always nice to know you're there. And the blokes too - there's probably a few of them.

yes, I hardly post, but log on daily and read everything and donate when I can. I find it so incredibly useful, and really appreciate the time, effort and intelligence displayed but most the posters on here. Thanks everyone!

Threads like this make it all worth it. Thank you to all the wonderful feminists of MN