Are feelings not allowed to be discussed on FWR?

[stumbledin]

Just asking as two threads have now been deleted.

No one understands why.

One was offering support to someone feeling low. What can be wrong with that?

The other was asking what did we do wrong.

@MNHQ if you feel something is "NITS" you need to explain how?

Otherwise it just seems totally subjective.

And if something has been said that is wrong but nobody knows it is wrong then we are in some sort of vicious circle of opaqueness.

This is genuine request for clarity.

Taats are deleted if reported.
No idea about why the first one went.

Okay! So there is a rule that you cant have a thread about a thread? Is that right?

Yes and that is a very longstanding rule.

And in fact the second thread wasn't about the thread it was about the deletion which no one understood and seemed very insensitive to the OP who was asking for support.

Is it MNHQ that is doing this of self appointe FWR monitors who go round reporting those who cross the line in their personal opinion.

Perhaps MNHQ could also give us information on what they consider 'NITS' to mean. What criteria do you use when deciding if something is NITS?

Why, for example, is discussing a non trans news issue, or a non trans sex offender in the media fine, but often NITS if it is a trans offender?

It’s a serious point tho. Women are under immense pressure from this issue and we absolutely need to be able to voice that and support each other.

Could we please keep this thread very civil and respectful?

I am very interested in why women’s feelings are so dangerous in this context. Does anyone have any ideas?

Trans people seem to keep shouting about how unsafe they feel about certain discussions and expressions. They also are very open about that some things make them feel suicidal.

Yet women’s feelings are dangerous?

The deleted thread count on my 'I'm on' feed is mounting.

@Winesalot

The deleted thread count on my 'I'm on' feed is mounting.

I had a week or two like that! Dispiriting!

@ ing MNHQ doesn't work, apparently. You should start a thread in Site Stuff - they usually respond on there.

Have just found out thanks to the Daily Mail that threads also get deleted if it becomes a story in the MSM!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4178734-AIBU-My-teen-wants-me-to-pay-for-hormone-treatment

Article bit.ly/3kDiN2W

What? That started as a support thread...may have strayed into other areas but was developing into a classic. Does anyone know what for?

Oh sorry I see... good that the responses are so sensible . Plant ?

when i last saw that thread it was very gentle, very supportive and encouraging- either some raging ragers got on it and started doing ragey things- in which case delete their posts - or....i really dont know, really, how on earth it could be construed as nits- unless nits means something other than not in the spirit.

I thought it was an interesting thread.
I've got my renewal for premium coming up soon and won't renew if this wasn't a one-off

There was a thread on Sunday from a woman scared of raising issues in real life asking where new found feminists like her could make real life connections? It was deleted for "language breaking our TGs".
I screenshot it because I couldn't believe that a gentle enquiring post like this was being deleted. It appears that she used one word referring to a mountain top in her OP. It demonstrated to me just how closely this board is monitored and how much pressure MNHQ must be under to feel the need to delete such an inoffensive post by a woman (and I think new to this board) asking for support.

@GCAcademic

@ ing MNHQ doesn't work, apparently. You should start a thread in Site Stuff - they usually respond on there.

Or report your own post. Reports aren't just for bad stuff, e.g. you can use them to nominate threads for classics.

persistentwoman, that was my thread. I know it sounds ridiculous but I found the deletion surprisingly upsetting. As you guessed, I'm relatively new to this board - I thought I had a reasonable grasp on what was and what wasn't acceptable and certainly would not choose language that was deliberately uncivil. I first heard the mountain term on here and had no idea it was now on the banned list (and I still don't fully understand why, although I accept I may be missing something - as I said, I'm new and as far as I can see the word isn't explicitly listed as unacceptable).

I can see the moderators have a difficult job though, and perhaps occasional over zealous deletions is the inevitable trade off for being able to have these discussions in a relatively safe space.

To add, MNHQ did suggest that I repost again without the banned word, but the experience put me off to be truthful.

[quote stumbledin]Have just found out thanks to the Daily Mail that threads also get deleted if it becomes a story in the MSM!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4178734-AIBU-My-teen-wants-me-to-pay-for-hormone-treatment

Article bit.ly/3kDiN2W[/quote]
That thread was odd, an 18yo wouldn't be on a waiting list for GIDS would they?

So glad to see you here cheeseismydownfall and I'm not surprised you found it upsetting - you'd written your OP so carefully I thought. You could message MNHQ and ask why as they suggested? It's just my guess that that that's the banned word - there doesn't seem to be a list anywhere to help people.

The thread was important as there are so many women coming to these issues new and it's so fantastic when we're finally able to make real life contact in what is an increasingly hostile world for women.

Cross posted!

What’s the mountain term and where is the banned list ?!

What do you call the top of a mountain, Porthills?

I think it’s ridiculously disrespectful and dismissive to not even bother to write out the words ‘not in the spirit.’