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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman who has been chained to her partner

93 replies

JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 26/02/2021 13:50

Hopefully the link works. link

I was going to title this “couple who have chained themselves to each other” but after reading the report that’s clearly not what has happened. Her boyfriend chained her to him to stop her leaving him.

This woman has been hospitalised due to the ulcers this chain has created on her arm.

Lots of grinning faces on Facebook. This is a woman who has literally been chained to her a abusive partner to prevent her leaving- it’s causing her physical injury- they’re publicising his abuse of her. And people are laughing.

What the actual fuck needs to happen for people to recognise abuse when they see it?

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Kit19 · 26/02/2021 15:27

www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/relationships/ukrainian-couple-chain-themselves-together-for-three-months/ar-BB1dHu1o

So they can only be separated by someone with special equipment to cut the chain. So she's stuck with him 24/7 and if she decides she doesnt want to do it anymore, he would let her ring for help would he? or would he stop her given that he's literally attached to her

"The couple's first test was a 325 mile drive home from the capital city in a taxi. They had to choose whether to jointly use the male or female toilets at a roadside cafe. They selected the women's toilet, providing a shock to a cleaner, as they began their lives with no personal space"

JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 26/02/2021 15:29

@Mummyoflittledragon

This is awful. I was also going to say that she looks like a dummy, a live doll in the photo in the car. She looks anything but relaxed. He’s holding a baton behind her head whilst she’s reading her phone, isn’t he?
I thought it was a hair brush or curling tong/straightener. It’s hard to see properly.
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Viviennemary · 26/02/2021 15:30

My guess is that it's a sick spoof.

Flapjak · 26/02/2021 15:31

Its awful whatever way you look at it. The fact that in 2021 a man feels that he can put this on social media and nobody do anything about it. It is abusive behavikur and no normal parent would want their daughter to be living like this

JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 26/02/2021 15:34

So they can only be separated by someone with special equipment to cut the chain. So she's stuck with him 24/7 and if she decides she doesnt want to do it anymore, he would let her ring for help would he? or would he stop her given that he's literally attached to her

Well given that the purpose of the chain is to stop her leaving whenever she wants I highly doubt he will let her have it removed before he wants to.

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notacooldad · 26/02/2021 15:36

Russia is dreadful and I suppose Ukraine isn't far behind
There have been big positve changes in Ukraine law towards domestic violence (gender based violence) last year. They are making a great effort to tackle the issue. However there is still a long way to go ( as there is everywhere, including the UK) Unfortunately the women in the east around Donbass ( where the war is still ongoing) are not protected enough.

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/02/2021 15:40

However there is still a long way to go ( as there is everywhere, including the UK)

Completely. I think I would trust a medical professional in the UK to not allow me to leave with him if asked. Would that happen in many other countries? I don't know.

As part of my job I've had to insist on seeing women alone for conversations. I think I'd 'visit the loo' and call the police for advice in this case.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/02/2021 15:40

Of course it is only her arm that has a fucking ulcer. She isn't the one jerking him around to wherever it is she wants to go!

But it is an experiment, from other articles on it, they are going 'for a record'

Vitaly Zorin, of Ukraine's national register of records, who supervised the experiment said: "The palms of the couple in love are just a couple of centimetres apart."
Zorin also had to verify the pair's mental health before starting their close encounter challenge, before they were chained together near the Unity sculpture in Kyiv, Ukraine.

JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 26/02/2021 15:45

Well an official experiment is a great way to legitimise abuse- so I don’t doubt that it is also an experiment.

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WarOnWomen · 26/02/2021 15:45

@Dozycuntlaters

It's not abuse, its a publicity stunt. She does not look bothered, she looks quite chilled and the article says it is a decision they made together. I think you're being dramatic when you say he chained her to stop her leaving him, they both decided together to do it so that they couldn't run off every time they disagree. This is so not abuse.

I really have no words. HmmConfusedSadShockShockAngryAngryAngry

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/02/2021 15:48

@JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority

Well an official experiment is a great way to legitimise abuse- so I don’t doubt that it is also an experiment.
Isn't it just!

Ludicrous!

MedusasBadHairDay · 26/02/2021 15:49

This is utterly grim

Wanderlusto · 26/02/2021 15:51

Youd think if it was an official experiment they would have picked a 'happy' couple. Not one where one partner keeps leaving. Unless they lied to the experimenter. Or the experimenter is actually running a different kind of experiment as to what they think. Like how long itll take for her to decide to saw her own arm off to escape him.

heatherhoneys · 26/02/2021 15:52

Not all women in an abusive relationship are allowed to have friends let alone to have friends come round to the house.
It's good that you were but that is not the case for everybody.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/02/2021 15:54

Unless they lied to the experimenter. Oh, but he had to assure their mental health prior to chaining them up, so he must be an expert! Mustn't he?

JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 26/02/2021 15:59

@heatherhoneys

Not all women in an abusive relationship are allowed to have friends let alone to have friends come round to the house. It's good that you were but that is not the case for everybody.
Is this to me?
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heatherhoneys · 26/02/2021 16:01

@JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority yes, you were saying how you invited friends round before you left. That's not an option for all abused women, it's common to isolate them from friends and family.

Sonicbloom · 26/02/2021 16:02

I hope her friends and family get her out of this relationship. Can you imagine going to the toilet like that ? It’s degrading

JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 26/02/2021 16:06

[quote heatherhoneys]@JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority yes, you were saying how you invited friends round before you left. That's not an option for all abused women, it's common to isolate them from friends and family.[/quote]
You’ve entirely missed my point. Another poster said if they were abused they wouldn’t take part in an interview showing them being abused. I responded to say that actually I did want people to see me being abused because it made it easier to leave. So perhaps this woman is allowing her abuse to be recorded for that exact reason.

What point did you think I was making?

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JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 26/02/2021 16:08

Maybe she’s giving him enough rope to hang himself.

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Gurufloof · 26/02/2021 16:13

The last thing I would have ever done would be to take part in an interview blatantly showing me being abused, and there's no way an abusive man would want that either

Shes fucking welded to him, if he wants an interview she has literally no bloody choice.
He wanted to show just how much control he has that he convinced her to be chained to him. Probably by force, or threat of harm.
The abusive man is actually saying hes abusive.
He states it in the interview. How many clues do you need?

Gurufloof · 26/02/2021 16:19

Its awful whatever way you look at it. The fact that in 2021 a man
feels that he can put this on social media and nobody do anything about it. It is abusive behavikur and no normal parent would want
their daughter to be living like this
There was the Russian? Man who killed his girlfriend while livestreaming? Recently.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/13368928/youtuber-kills-pregnant-girlfriend-livestream-sub-zero-balcony-abuse/

Not only did he kill her, the people on the livestream egged him on, to kill a pregnant woman.

heatherhoneys · 26/02/2021 16:23

@JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority whatever point you were making doesn't change the fact that you were coming across as saying because it wasn't that way for you then it can't be like that for others.

You wanted people to see he was abusive, you were fortunate that there were people in your life that could fulfil that want for you.

JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority · 26/02/2021 16:30

[quote heatherhoneys]@JackieWeaverIsTheAuthority whatever point you were making doesn't change the fact that you were coming across as saying because it wasn't that way for you then it can't be like that for others.

You wanted people to see he was abusive, you were fortunate that there were people in your life that could fulfil that want for you. [/quote]
You’re clearly confused

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/02/2021 16:50

Bloody hell! Could you stop poking at OP?

She did as she did. Others will do differently. None are wrong. And the more we talk about it and the different ways women deal with it the more women will feel able to do something about their abusive partner.

But stop naggling at one woman because she did something that falls outside your norm.