Kirsty Blackman tweet

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Kirsty Blackman, an SNP MP who has been very critical of Joanna Cherry and GC feminism has put out a tweet demonstrating she has completely misunderstood the two sides of the argument:

"I am a woman, I live as a woman, and I dress however I like... That's why when we hear 'Gender Critical' individuals talking about 'proper women' or 'real women' I am gravely worried"

The comments are amazing.

Is the root of the issue? That NONE of the people in charge have actually listened to women's concerns? Just went off their own half baked assumptions and made decisions which impact on women's lives?

Well, that's a first in history.

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

Is the root of the issue? That NONE of the people in charge have actually listened to women's concerns? Just went off their own half baked assumptions and made decisions which impact on women's lives?

Well, that's a first in history.

It really is part of it.

There’s a distinct lack of critical thinking skills these days. They deal in headlines and sound bites without actually interrogating the issue or consequences.

Well, that's embarrassing.

She probably just watched a contrapoints video

It's insulting on so many levels. She has a cursory look at the 'issue' solves it by thinking about outfits and writes an article telling us all how we are wrong.

Crikey.

What do you say in the face of this?

Is this lack of awareness or a massive failure of understanding? Does Kirsty honestly think Julie Bindel and Germaine Greer and Martina Navratilova are advocating 1950s gender conformity?

Clutching at straws here, I suppose if she has got the very wrongest end of the wrongest stick here and entered a wormhole of arse-backwards misunderstanding, it at least explains why she's railing against gc women, because that straw-fem she's built is a doozy.

Embarrassing, though.

This debate always comes down to appearance in the end because it's the only aspect of womanhood that a man could possibly hope to emulate
This answer is spot on

Wow, embarrassing. I feel sorry for any of her constituents if that is her level of comprehension.

I can't see any responses from her to any of the tweets - has anyone else seen her engage at all?

No I looked through her tweets & she hasn’t responded to any of the replies

Maybe the penny has dropped...

I was bemused by the twitter defence of Kirstys post by a well known Mermaids mum who sounds exasperated that us silly women can't understand the difference between gender identity and gender expression despite having had it explained to us for years.

I think (up to date) gender theory says that you are privileged if you are a bloke, who looks and acts like a bloke but are a repressed, vulnerable individual if you are a bloke who looks and acts like a bloke whilst feeling like a woman.

@EmpressWitchDoesntBurn

The really sad bit IMO is that Kirsty Blackman was the MP from the lovely heartwarming www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/2679290-Found-a-toy-bunny-outside-the-House-of-Commons thread back in 2016. And now this.

Yes Empress, and she came across as a genuinely lovely, empathetic and kind woman on that thread too.

@WestminsterBunny, you really have been seriously misinformed about this. Please listen to us. You could start here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Or just talk with Joanna Cherry

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I can't see any responses from her to any of the tweets - has anyone else seen her engage at all?

No. She never engages, I doubt she even reads them judging by the ignorant tripe in her blog post.

I can't see any responses from her to any of the tweets - has anyone else seen her engage at all?

Surprisingly few responses from TRA too, Purple. Which is unusual. Mermaids mum only said The Usual, but hasn't responded to anything specific.

Fascinating. Wonder what PN will publish about this?

The problem with the #nodebate approach is that people don't get challenged, and that includes people who are making the political decisions.

There is no other area of politics where opposing arguments are quashed and dismissed out of hand.

This is the result. I am sure that there are loads of MSPs and MPs who are bright and capable and kind, and who haven't actually thought deeply about ANY of this stuff.

And, then, there are the ones who have thought abut it, and dismissed it because they simply hate women

Some gender ideologues really think we are all reincarnation of Mary Whitehouse don't they?

@nauticant: the infuriating thing about saying that gender identity has nothing to do with stereotypes is that two major trans resources - Stonewall and the gender bread man BOTH say that gender identity is how well you fit into masculinity or femininity, where masculinity and femininity is a social construct that dictates roles, behaviours and appearances. The genderbread man even gives as an example of gender identity: "personality traits, hobbies, job, likes, dislikes."These are clearly stereotypical. Then you get attempts by the ONS which says that gender is an "inner perception of oneself." That is far too broad. That means gender could encompass any current inner perception such as cold, nausea, hunger.

As an aside, I find that definition fascinating because when I introspect I don't seem to have any perception of my 'self'. I feel a bit like David Hume who introspected and just found mental imagery, or current experience, but no self.

Anyone else infuriated and gobsmacked at just how ill informed and incompetent some MPs/MSPs are.

But this is where no debate gets you Kirsty, making an absolute fool of yourself on twitter and showing everyone that you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

Well done 👏

I wonder how much of this ignorance is due to tribal/silo thinking? The 'right side of history' attitude seems to assume someone not 100% agreeing you is therefore 100% wrong. I think this article clearly articulates virtually no understanding of the GC position whilst also intending to show how different to that and right on she is. It rather smacks of swallowing the narrative that all GC people are fundamentally conservative, which is a vast oversimplification.

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-heresy-of-biology/?fbclid=IwAR2vECpKbchOgcDlWaFJuxxdEOVl0uZGppceFscBRmsuI9BtRMsn2JhoU#more-126519

This is concerning.

It rather smacks of swallowing the narrative that all GC people are fundamentally conservative, which is a vast oversimplification.

And totally wrong. At least in the UK it is almost entirely left wing feminists.

Basically Kirsty is breaking her own party's proposed laws if she in anyway alludes to a transwoman being a biological male.

And yet she is clearly gender critical. So tied everything into a gaslighting ball of cognitive dissonance.

The level of ignorance from Kirsty is both scary and hilarious is equal measure.

Quite. Lifelong Labour voter here. Now feeling very unsure how to vote.