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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Facebook post on women's sport

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DistantVworp · 21/02/2021 15:55

I know my post got deleted last night, but I wanted to give a brief update. Beardy woke bro is still silent, but a female friend of his agreed with me (and also made other points on T-levels, anatomical structure).

Another female friend then told me it was all tiresome terf talking points and I was being unkind (and that I didn't think intersex people exist) plus I needed to use trans women not transwomen blah blah.

Anyway, posted again to point out

  1. Everything I posted was factually correct and wasn't it interesting that she dismissed it as terf bullshit without actually being able to counter the facts.
  2. Intersex women in women's sport is a totally separate debate. It's one I think is important to have, but has to relevance to the topice we were discussing.
  3. Don't call me a terf - and linked to terfisaslur.com

Feeling a lot more confident today - onward and upward!

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Helmetbymidnight · 23/02/2021 12:58

If gender identity is an internal sense of self - what would be the purpose of splitting sport by that? What would it be for ?

That is a good one.

Looking forwards to hearing his answer! (He won't answer)

DistantVworp · 23/02/2021 13:14

Neither of us American - sports was just a typo for sport (although I also talk about womens' sports as a plural).

I really hate the sport isn't fair argument. A dig into Emma Hilton's twitter linked to a really interesting article on the advantage argument vs the range argument theconversation.com/why-the-world-rugby-guidelines-banning-trans-athletes-from-the-womens-game-are-reasonable-152178?utm_medium=amptwitter&utm_source=twitter

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Xpectations · 23/02/2021 15:17

‘Sport isn’t fair’ is only used to deny women.
It’s never an acceptable response to male-born transgendered persons.

DodoPatrol · 23/02/2021 15:31

transwomen don't have any overall advantage over cis people
but they do over female people. Is he really including both sexes without irony here?

DistantVworp · 24/02/2021 00:40

Final update from me. He replied to my last post basically saying that you can tell the difference between men who would artificially reduce testosterone and transwomen because they (the former) are men. He also called my post next level terfy. His response to the other woman was a bit more nuanced and seemed to just about accept there was an issue with transwomen who had been through male puberty.

Anyway I left it there - responded to say that I spoke as a passionate supporter of women's sport (as he knows) and I wasn't going to hang around to be called a terf any more.

OP posts:
Helmetbymidnight · 24/02/2021 07:37

it sounds like you did great- i bet you planted the seed of doubt...

ArabellaScott · 24/02/2021 08:09

You've done so well, OP. Fantastic work. As you say, this bloke sounds like one of these people who doesn't even think about what they're saying; leave him to his nonsense. I expect plenty will see through it and agree with you. And so lovely you have made a friend/ally!

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