What do you think of terms like “boss babe”, “mom-trepeneur” or “she-EO”

[LittleRa]

I saw this post shared on Reddit and got me thinking about the use of these terms. Totally agree with what she is saying.

Those daft terms seem to be mostly used by people on Facebook trying to flog MLM tat as far as I can see, and yes they are ridiculous and need to get in the sea.

I've only ever seen these these terms used by MLM recruiters/sellers.

I can't say I've ever seen them used by anyone who I'd consider to be a serious or successful business person, or used to describe someone who I'd consider to be a successful business person.

Do you think it’s similar to women being described as, for example, a “female doctor” or a “lady doctor” as opposed to a doctor?

'Female doctor' is a factual description, the others are invented terms used to make women think running a business is cute and easy and not much different to browsing social media.

@Nighthawker

Those daft terms seem to be mostly used by people on Facebook trying to flog MLM tat as far as I can see, and yes they are ridiculous and need to get in the sea.

Yep, terms used by women being exploited in MLM, tricked by the idea that it offers “female empowerment” when it’s the very opposite. I’m afraid this kind of language and trivialisation leaks into every day parlance along with memes of pastel coloured stationery and women sexily besuited, wearing big glasses (to denote intelligence yet availability). It’s depressing stuff that no “career man” and “boss hunk” will ever have to endure.

Daft , as is ,"shero"

The are awful. Reduces the holder of the title. Stop it!
Men don't do it unless they're using the daddy daycare nonsense.
Yes, the mlms and associated "mummies in business" love that shit.

I felt the same repulsion from "girl power" slogans 20 years ago.

Yes, agree with the Reddit poster.
Its patronising twaddle.

I agree with the Reddit poster. Plus those terms also have an added negative because they are so twee and cringeworthy.

Not heard of boss babes or she-eos before. Mom-trepeneurs I've always thought of as a label for a specific stereotype- a stay at home mum who is an Avon lady or Etsy creator for pocket money, but very much as a side thing. She views being a mother as her defining characteristic and therefore inserts it into her job title.

I quite like "shero" . It's just the female version of hero without any condescending language.

Forgot to say I dislike the terms in the OP. And "girl power". They conjure up the opposite of what they claim to be promoting.

MLM parlance. Eeeek!

@GeidiPrimes

I quite like "shero" . It's just the female version of hero without any condescending language.

Isn’t the female version of a hero a heroine?

@LittleRa

Do you think it’s similar to women being described as, for example, a “female doctor” or a “lady doctor” as opposed to a doctor?

I would say female doctor if I specifically wanted to see a woman, but the rest of those phrases are just dreadful. Thankfully manageress seems to be used less these days but these awful terms have come in.

Awful. Patronising. What's wrong with Boss, entrepreneur, CEO? None of them is a sex-specific term. If you wanted for some reason to emphasise that the person in this position was female, just prefix the word with 'female'.

Agree with LApprentiSorcier

The terms 'boss' 'entrepreneur' and 'CEO' are much preferable. The other terms seem overly cutesy to me, and thus diminish female roles

manwhohasitall.teemill.com/collection/hers-and-his/

Mumpreneur is just hideous. I have worked in business a long time and got so pissed off when at net working events conversations would invariably lead round to children, and the “Do you have children ?”

Why is that relevant? Do men get asked that? And god help anyone who introduced me as “mum of 3 who is here today to talk about her business career” etc

@dementedma

Mumpreneur is just hideous. I have worked in business a long time and got so pissed off when at net working events conversations would invariably lead round to children, and the “Do you have children ?”

Why is that relevant? Do men get asked that? And god help anyone who introduced me as “mum of 3 who is here today to talk about her business career” etc

I'll never forget the work training course ("wellbeing" bollocks) where I was one of two women, and the trainer kept saying 'maybe you've been in this situation as a mum and looking over at me and the other woman. I wanted to shout 'I don't even have any children, and why aren't you patronising the theoretical 'dads' too?'.

[quote MaudTheInvincible]manwhohasitall.teemill.com/collection/hers-and-his/[/quote]
I did think of a The Man Who Has It All Facebook when I read this- I like the quote that’s along the lines of

“I don’t mind the term policewomen because I know it includes both male and female officers”

• Dave, 42, policewoman

Never seen anyone with any credibility using any of these terms. Just MLM people or the kind of people that put on Facebook 'CEO at Stay at Home Mummy'

Embarrassing.

I will never use those terms, or allow anyone to describe me as anything like that. I'm self-employed, sole-trader or occasionally 'The Proprietor' my DF had a business and that was his, and my DGF's before him, title I use that last on if someone is talking down to me about my little business. It is little, but it's new and growing.

If it expands to a CEO title (in my dreams, possibly nightmares) I'll have that as my title, thanks. She-EO sounds like something toddlers playing grown-ups might come up with.