"Terf Wars" Video

[AryaStarkWolf]

I saw someone post a link to a video I think it was called Terf Wars but not 100% sure, it was a compilation of points made by various people including Blair White and JK Rowling. I saw the link posted here yesterday and I was planning on watching it later on that day but I couldn't remember which thread it was in and searching on youtube brought up nothing, does anyone have the link/know where it is please?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=tzId7X9NtR0&feature=youtu.be

Oh thank you so much @KittyValentine

Stayed up till 2 last night watching this! Nothing much new for old lags as it’s a compilation but it’s very well put together and brought a tear to my eye to see Magdalen in brilliant action.
Trigger warning for that utterly creepy Jeffery man who keeps turning up to ask kids to treat him as their mum. He is genuinely more scary than the girl from The Ring and I don’t say that lightly.

Existing thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4150929-T-rf-Wars-documentary-on-YouTube

(I also struggled to search for it, defeated by the cunning asterisk technology).

@NowtSalamander

Stayed up till 2 last night watching this! Nothing much new for old lags as it’s a compilation but it’s very well put together and brought a tear to my eye to see Magdalen in brilliant action. Trigger warning for that utterly creepy Jeffery man who keeps turning up to ask kids to treat him as their mum. He is genuinely more scary than the girl from The Ring and I don’t say that lightly.

I was planning on putting it on in my car for my journey home later, do you need to actually watch it or is sound enough?

@NecessaryScene1

Existing thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4150929-T-rf-Wars-documentary-on-YouTube

(I also struggled to search for it, defeated by the cunning asterisk technology).

Thank you

I sent this to my daughter. Why can't my teens/adults get it. They have been conditioned to be woke. Will they change with life experiences?

I get called a man hater and a bigot. I'm so fucking not (and they know it) but they dont seem to get this. Help!

I think you’d be better off watching it as it’s easier - it switches between people pretty fast which I’d imagine would be quite distracting if you were driving.

And it's almost all interview extracts, so you wouldn't miss much from just sound. The artistry was in the editing/juxtaposition of clips, rather than any fancy visual work.

You'd might just find yourself wanting to identify a speaker later - you'd be missing the ID captions.

@WouldstrokeTomHardy

I sent this to my daughter. Why can't my teens/adults get it. They have been conditioned to be woke. Will they change with life experiences?

I get called a man hater and a bigot. I'm so fucking not (and they know it) but they dont seem to get this. Help!

I think so, I think women always get it more the older we get and especially when we have children or have to spend a lot of time dealing with women's health issues

@NowtSalamander

I think you’d be better off watching it as it’s easier - it switches between people pretty fast which I’d imagine would be quite distracting if you were driving.

Thanks

@NecessaryScene1

And it's almost all interview extracts, so you wouldn't miss much from just sound. The artistry was in the editing/juxtaposition of clips, rather than any fancy visual work.

You'd might just find yourself wanting to identify a speaker later - you'd be missing the ID captions.

I might do both, listen to pass the journey and watch it later

@NowtSalamander I think he was in the Dysphoric documentary too. The way he spoke sent shudders down my spine. Couldn't watch that clip again when he appeared in this documentary too. Very big Childcatcher vibes.

it switches between people pretty fast

Aye, but I don't think that's a problem. It's the montage that matters - exactly who's speaking isn't usually that important. This isn't narrative-based, or particularly dealing with individuals.

You’re welcome AryaStarkWolf.

Another excellent set of videos is:

m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRU9NIX0AA143z2QKukQcOqS96qriKGyw

... a four part series on the rise of gender identity ideology.

Couldn't watch that clip again when he appeared in this documentary too.

I'd not seen him outside of still photos before, and kind of thought people might be exaggerating a tad, but I immediately found myself dragging another window in front of the YouTube one until he'd stopped talking. Couldn't take that looking at me. Shudder.

@KittyValentine

You’re welcome AryaStarkWolf.

Another excellent set of videos is:

m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRU9NIX0AA143z2QKukQcOqS96qriKGyw

... a four part series on the rise of gender identity ideology.

Brilliant I'll add them to my list

Thanks OP. We live in hope

@KittyValentine

You’re welcome AryaStarkWolf.

Another excellent set of videos is:

m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRU9NIX0AA143z2QKukQcOqS96qriKGyw

... a four part series on the rise of gender identity ideology.

I've watched the first 2 of these, these are actually terrifying, aren't they? The Terf Wars doc was kind of pointing out the stupidity of it all but this one really focuses in on the dangers. This generation of teens/tweens are going to be so messed up in later life

Yes!! As Scott Newgent said in the Terf Wars video, the fallout in years to come is going to be huge.

@KittyValentine

Yes!! As Scott Newgent said in the Terf Wars video, the fallout in years to come is going to be huge.

It also makes me wonder if this explosion in cases of FTM transitions is an unwanted/unforeseen side effect of TRA/MRAs pushing of the trans agenda?

Thank you for pointing me in the direction of this video. It echoes so much of the arguments I’ve come to through personal experience, reading and life experience.

The fact that organisations such as Mermaids and Stonewall fall into the trap of gender stereotypes and being non-conforming (somehow) equals trans is frightening. Break down the stereotypes and let men who want to wear ‘female’ clothes feel safe to do it in male spaces.

We’ve discussed it extensively as a family (DH, DS21, DD20, DD18) and I’ve listened to their perspective, their experience at work/school/Uni and they’ve listened to mine. We don’t agree on everything but do agree on the dangers of self ID and the damage to women’s fight for equality.

I’ll admit that there are areas which are muddy for me. I don’t want to put anyone in the position where they don’t feel safe but not at the expense of women. Particularly when the root of the issue is male violence.

@Gatehouse77 you should also watch that Documentary series @KittyValentine posted, they're excellent

Also check out the original thread - I posted a load of links to the source material there for this film there, and some other documentaries:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4150929-T-rf-Wars-documentary-on-YouTube

Thank you, will do.