Shiloh Jolie-Pitt: always a girl, doing her own thing.

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I love this!

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Also in 2010, Jolie said, “I don’t think it’s for the world to interpret anything. She likes to dress like a boy and wants her hair cut like a boy and she wanted to be called ‘John’ for a while. Some kids wear capes and want to be Superman and she wants to be like her brothers. It’s who she is. It’s been a surprise to us and it’s really interesting, but she’s so much more than that – she’s funny and sweet and pretty. But she does love a tie…”

Wasn’t sure it was worth starting its own thread for so bumping this one, but the DM has noticed Shiloh was wearing a dress at an event over the weekend. Her parents seem to be an object lesson of the power of letting children be children. Will it give some people pause for thought do you think?

She was just a tomboy. As previous posters said.. this used to be allowed. Now we are so deep in gender roles that girls can’t do anything expect wear pink or play dolls lest she be a boy.

Angelina Jolie made some very sensible comments in the past about not labelling and not making any assumptions or comments, based on what their children wanted to wear or express themselves as. Even being happy to use a masculine nickname (John) whilst not taking that as a sign that their child was now literally male.

Jolie & Pitt seem to have been able to give Shiloh her own space to be as she wanted, without judgement or assumption. What I've seen from media images of Shiloh is that she has gone through a very typical development process during puberty and is now emerging as a more complex and fully formed adult.

I doubt that it will make much difference to the media dialogue about sex and gender. There are plenty of other celebs who are happy to socially transition their young children if any gender non-conforming behaviour is shown.

She seems great, lovely to be able to play with clothes as a child should be!

@MarshmallowSwede

She was just a tomboy. As previous posters said.. this used to be allowed. Now we are so deep in gender roles that girls can’t do anything expect wear pink or play dolls lest she be a boy.

This ^ Far too much conversation about what Shiloh wears, she’s just a child.

I went through a brief phase of wearing dresses one summer, but no one really wore skirts or dresses growing up in the 80s. Too hard to play out in and Too cold most of the time.

I did,desperately, want to be like George in the f5 for a while. I remember being in tears error my dad explained why cutting all my hair off might be something i regretted. Being a girl was just a bit shit. Especially a giant, non feminine one who struggled to maintain friendships with the girls at school and didn't really get the unwritten rules. I also spent much of my early teens terrified that I wasn't a proper girl, as my periods were late to start. Growing up is confusing.

My friend had a twin brother and was called a tomboy. She was totally fearless. But it's sad that that's seen as a male trait.

It is depressing that girls wearing jeans, t shirts, jumpers and being fearless/active/etc are seen as "tomboys" and not just simply girls being themselves.

@HerselfIndoors

This was me as a child. Luckily it was 40 years ago and I was a tomboy, not a "boy". I also had phases where I liked skirts and longer hair and guess what I'm still the same today. Female and enjoying all the cultural stuff I want to. I'm so happy Shiloh has not been pushed into anything, that's how it should be.

Tomboy here as well. I used to shove rolled socks down my pants to pretend I had male genitals. I hated being a girl mainly because I thought being a girl meant giving up any autonomy and agency to be honest. Boys had WAY more fun.

I still have short hair and rarely wear dresses. But thoroughly hetero. And feminist. Thank heavens no-one tried to weaponise my tomboy-ness for their own agenda when I was young and just trying to figure my way through the world.

@Slipperfairy

I went through a brief phase of wearing dresses one summer, but no one really wore skirts or dresses growing up in the 80s. Too hard to play out in and Too cold most of the time.

I did,desperately, want to be like George in the f5 for a while. I remember being in tears error my dad explained why cutting all my hair off might be something i regretted. Being a girl was just a bit shit. Especially a giant, non feminine one who struggled to maintain friendships with the girls at school and didn't really get the unwritten rules. I also spent much of my early teens terrified that I wasn't a proper girl, as my periods were late to start. Growing up is confusing.

My friend had a twin brother and was called a tomboy. She was totally fearless. But it's sad that that's seen as a male trait.

This was very much me as a child too, mostly primary age. I was late to periods too but early to develop breasts which actually helped to settle my "girl-ness" in mind as I could see myself as developing into something that made sense as a female form. But as a tall, strong 7-10 year old I was desperate to be a famous five style George! Girls were meant to be small and light and delicate and not clumsy great oafs, which was how I saw myself.

Shiloh seems to have been left well alone to just be herself which is heartwarming. I wonder if she had an awareness of the likelihood of the really intense, disturbing levels of interest in her physical development that could be heading her way, as a daughter of Pitt & Jolie - there's some powerhouse genes in there in terms of physical attractiveness, I bet there's a lot of gross men (and tabloid editors) waiting for her to be "all grown up". I'd want to hide from all that too. Who wouldn't.

I often wonder what my parents would be being told if I were a child now. I went through a fairly long phase of refusing to answer to anything except Casey Jones and wearing dungarees and checked shirts. Later on I got interested in war gaming with my brother and decided to be Napolean for a while. Add to that the fact that I rode a "boys" bike and was top of the class in maths and science.....what more evidence could you need.
I'm pleased to report that I no longer identify as a dead 19th century American train driver or have aspirations to rule Europe, but I do have a successful career in a STEM field.Then I was a tomboy, and a bit quirky. Now, who knows?
I'm not a huge fan of the Jolie-Pitts but it looks like they have done a good job here, both for their own daughter and potentially lots of others too. But the media should back off and let Shiloh wear whatever she wants, whenever she wants withiut all this speculation.

I have aspirations to rule Europe.

Don't impose restrictions on yourself, @MrsAvocet please.

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