Unbelievable projection from Jane Fae on puberty blockers

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With breathtaking chutzpah, Fae claims in an article in the Independent that the "the consequences could be devastating" for those children no longer allowed easy access to puberty blockers.

Fae worries that there has been no no "risk assessment for those affected" (unlike all the non-existent risk-assessments for putting the poor kids on puberty blockers in the first place).

"Whatever happened to “first, do no harm”?" Fae asks, in a really outrageous piece of DARVO.

"In the case of puberty blockers and Hormone replacement Therapy (HRT), the adverse physical and psychological effects are equally well-documented." Fae says. But no, this is not Fae suddenly accepting reality. It continues: "We know, for instance, that women who suddenly have HRT withdrawn may become suicidal." So it is withdrawal that Fae objects to, not the filling of innocent children with dangerous and untested medication in the first place. The article continues with more unproven, dangerous assertions that children are being driven to suicide as a result of not being able to get hold of blockers.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/transgender-court-ruling-puberty-blockers-b1766456.html

You'd think the Independent, which reports all of this uncritically, must have no idea that biological sex is an indelible characteristic or that men's treatment of women underlies many young girls' unhappiness with their birth sex. And yet, on the same day, they publish this:

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/baby-making-factory-nigeria-ogun-b1766419.html

Unfuckingbelievable.

So utterly irresponsible. Why aren't newspapers applying codes of conduct around the reporting of suicide any more? The article starts off heightened and gets more feverish. Is it that the commissioning editors are all kids nowadays and they can't see how potentially harmful this narrative is? Kids do not need to be repeatedly told they're at increased risk of taking their own lives. These adults have lost the plot. All because a ruling decided that children could not consent because they can't fully understand the consequences of life changing experimental drugs. My faith in humans ebbs away by the day.

Far has fathered two children.

"the consequences could be devastating"

Is this the same person who told their daughter of their transition the night before her GSCEs?

Fae has some extremely dubious views around DV and pornography that are easily discoverable and which, if I were the commissioning editor on a national newspaper, would ring alarm bells before asking them to contribute their views on anything, least of all what's best for kids.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3153920/Is-little-boy-s-haunting-story-proof-children-know-born-wrong-sex.html

Fae neglects to mention in this heartwarming coming of age story the long period when defending and promoting hard core sadistic porn - like fantasising about torturing and murdering the spice girls - was Fae's main preoccupation

Oh, knit off, Fae

And lots of the women here on mumsnet can give their experience of the dramatic shortages of almost all brands of HRT in the UK from 2018. Completely unnoticed in the press for most of that time, because the impact was mostly on older women...

Is this the same person who told their daughter of their transition the night before her GSCEs?

A-levels.

Natasha Ozimek was 16, and two days away from sitting her physics AS-level, when her father John told her he was planning to change sex; a process known as transitioning. "It was awful when I found out. My throat was doing a wobbly and then I just burst into tears. Dad was trying to hug me and I was having none of it. I think I blanked out in shock a little bit, and spent that night in the conservatory in my pyjamas until four in the morning, just crying"

As for the exams, Tash could not concentrate and flunked them.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/18/gender-dysmorphia-daughter-dad-woman

I’ve always been intrigued as to why certain grown adults are so invested in helping children reach adulthood without having gone through puberty .

@NotBadConsidering

I’ve always been intrigued as to why certain grown adults are so invested in helping children reach adulthood without having gone through puberty .

And then there’s the grown adults in certain organisations currently fighting for children’s increased bodily autonomy. What do you get when you put the two together?

That's it NotTerf . what a W⚓, most parents make sure their kid gets a good nights sleep, no distractions and is up on time with a good breakfast in them before a major exam. Not this one, tells me all I need to know.

What do you get when you put the two together?

A deletion probably.

Late onset transitioning male wanting female children not to go through a best practice informed consent process for treatments that adversely affect their sexual function and fertility?

I'm even more sceptical when remember Jane Fae's view about pornography. I'd like to write more but it would get me a deletion

You'd think the Independent, which reports all of this uncritically

The Independent is the Daily Star of the "broadsheet" newspapers.

Another piece of shit who can rot in hell.
As far as im concerned..
I hope his daughters are ok, im guessing they're in therapy.

@DrDavidBanner

That's it NotTerf . what a W⚓, most parents make sure their kid gets a good nights sleep, no distractions and is up on time with a good breakfast in them before a major exam. Not this one, tells me all I need to know.

Telling kids about a transition while they’re doing major exams seems to be a thing - Fae isn’t the only one to have done it that way.

Telling kids about a transition while they’re doing major exams seems to be a thing - Fae isn’t the only one to have done it that way.

Some people don’t like it when either the attention is focussed on someone else or when person isn’t focussing on them. You’d hope that parents wouldn’t do that to their children but there is evidence of that here and on the relationship boards all the time.

@OneEpisode

And lots of the women here on mumsnet can give their experience of the dramatic shortages of almost all brands of HRT in the UK from 2018. Completely unnoticed in the press for most of that time, because the impact was mostly on older women...

Exactly! Where was the hand wringing then?

(Fortunately it seems to have got better now, I’ve had no problems getting mine the last couple of times)

The Independent really should have another look at how The Samaritans recommend newspapers discuss suicidality it’s so irresponsible.

I didn't think the Independent was an actual newspaper anymore. It's just a series of opinion pieces isn't it? Is anyone actually overseeing what it spews out? Such a shame as I remember when it was launched it was new and exciting.

I don't know - they kind of have a point. I think we can all agree that the kids are the victim in all of this. They should never have been prescribed those experimental drugs, but I agree that they shouldn't be withdrawn without a care plan in place. These children have been told over and over, by the charities that are supposed to be in their corner, that the alternative to this treatment is suicide. I think they are going to need a lot of support and I would strongly back a push for appropriate care plans and provision of support at this time.

So much for safe and reversible and being able to stop at any time....

Suddenly its all withdrawal issues like its heroin or something

Was never mentioned before when advocating ther safety....

The reliance on them us psychological not physical. This is what happens when you don't treat the mental side.

@Flywheel

I don't know - they kind of have a point. I think we can all agree that the kids are the victim in all of this. They should never have been prescribed those experimental drugs, but I agree that they shouldn't be withdrawn without a care plan in place. These children have been told over and over, by the charities that are supposed to be in their corner, that the alternative to this treatment is suicide. I think they are going to need a lot of support and I would strongly back a push for appropriate care plans and provision of support at this time.

You would hope that GIDS have a plan in place pdq for children already on blockers. But this is GIDS who have come across as pretty incompetent and irresponsible and I don't hold out much hope. GIDS current patients are probably going to be let down very badly.

GIDS current patients are probably going to be let down very badly

Definitely. I mean it would be goodnof they started publically speaking out against all these idiots who are now online /doing interviews etc practically begging kids to start killing themselves. I mean the plan seems to be to emotionally blackmail everyone into reversing the judgement as opposed to presenting all this "evidence" that they claim there is but seemingly didn't present when they had the chance

Indeed. I don't have much confidence they will get the support they need.

If they had the support they needed to start with they probably wouldn't be on blockers in the first place