Transgender teen removed from parents in order to start hormone treatment in Australis

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8998207/Transsexual-teenager-removed-parents-judge-rules-parents-abusive.html

Summary - 15 year old girl wants to be a boy. Parents don’t want her to receive hormone therapy. Court removes child from parents. Court case this week regarding starting hormone therapy.

I’ll be watching the court case closely. Australia is very pro transgender rights. This is terrifying.

Depression is very common. The underlying causes need dealing with. No one who's depressed is magically going to be ok witg one change in their life reliant on everyone else going along with something.

Someone needs to learn to come to terms with their own situation and face reality.

How long do you think it will he vefore biology/reality shows its face outside the family and friend bubble?

Would you tell an anorexic they were fat becuase they felt that way?

@Thingybob

This case was being discussed on RT today and one of those invited on, who was arguing that a 14/15 your old does have capacity to make these decisions, was Stephanie Hayden.

Has a teenage kid do they?

Funniky enough though when the same 14/15 ur olds go to papers/ set up.petitioms amd protests and put in fir JRs theybare driven by bigot parents and dont know what they are doing

If they knew what they were doing they’d have the vote and could leave school. And join the army, get a tattoo, go to the pub...

Seems you can pick and choose when benefits you right...

I mean they can't understand about standing up for legal rights when if they had no case at all their be sent straight out the door, instead several counties dropped the tool kit so what does that tell you....

But they can consent to losing fertility and sexual function ?

Make your mind up

... This case was being discussed on RT today ..

I can't work out what "RT" is - anyone?

I thought it was Victoria but having reread the report, it deliberately avoids mentioning the state.

I assumed it was R4 typo? I missed the radio this morning.

@CatsCantCatchCriminals2

... This case was being discussed on RT today ..

I can't work out what "RT" is - anyone?

Russia Today, the news station

Russia Today?

What qualifications does Hayden have to talk about anything other than hounding women through the courts?

Oh sorry, cross posted.

Russia Today? Can’t say I’ve ever actually listened to that. They are looking under the barrel for commentators then.

So a 16 year old is old enough to make another human but not to be allowed to make decisions about their own life?

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I think I've linked to the item.

Drs don't even sterilise adults as they feel they will change their mind.

The youngest someone ever had a baby was 5 . The ability to carry and birth a child is no reflection on whether they can make a permanent decision about not wanting to enjoy having sex again or have a family in the future.

And teenage bodies aren't even made for childbirth. The effects on the body can be serious.

@Joswis

So a 16 year old is old enough to make another human but not to be allowed to make decisions about their own life?

Yes.

Yes, but at 16 it is LEGAL to have sex and have a baby. We are not talking about biological possibility, but the age that the state and society deem old enough.

In some countries tbe age of consent is 14. In others children marry at the onset if periods

Are those kids capable of these decisions?

The brain doesn't fully mature until uour 20s, and that process is notbeveb complete in children put on blockers.

Do you think a mentally and emotionally and physically stunted/delayed child has the same ability to consent ?

This improves drastically with supportive care.

Yes, if that care deals with the multiple layers of distress before making medicalised changes. Have you not read the papers and studies stating that not dealing with underlying mental health issues first means little change to improved mental health and suicidal risks.

Sadly, the groups who pushed the latest law changes in QLD and ACT have ignored them (well the American Psch retraction may have been after those laws were pushed through and ... it was in the midst of a global pandemic they chose to push them through).

If the society deems 16 as the age of consent, and the population of that society believes that is too young, they need to lobby for it to be changed.

It is on the statute books. Once the Australian teenager in question is 16, they have reached the age of consent and get to make that decision themselves.

And having been ripped away from their parents at 15, and zero exploration into why they feel the way they do, how do you think its gonna go?

The feelings that caused this are still there and will be despite all the hormones and surgery . But its ok cos shes old enough,?

So job done kid affirmed and drugged everyone happy attention onto the next one... Will those in the care home follow up at 18/20/40? Be there when they finally realise they need help?

Whats unsupportive about seeking therapy fir a depressed child ?

@ThatIsNotMyUsername

Russia Today? Can’t say I’ve ever actually listened to that. They are looking under the barrel for commentators then.

Christ on a bike, that's the barrel scraping interviewing more of the same.

RT is a blatant part of Putin's propaganda wars. If they've got interested in trans issues it will be because they see it as a "liberal democracies eating themselves" opportunity to destabilise the west. Hence picking really out there interviewees to make sure they amplify the extremes.

(RT blatantly makes shit up to stir, in potentially global conflict stirring ways. Eg their fake reports during the failed Turkish coup a few years ago that hostile troops had besieged the NATO base at Incurlik where the Americans keep tactical nuclear weapons. This isn't just Freddie Starr ate my hamster levels of disinformation - this is deliberately choosing to tell lies to attempt to cause political chaos. If you listen to RT bear in mind the level of disinformation you're being presented with and the possible motivations).

In all eventualities? So let a suicidal child kill themselves? So at what age did you allow your child to do everything that wanted?

Parents job is to guide their kids and make sure they don’t make decisions that will mess up their lives. Not let them do whatever they want and just pick up the pieces.