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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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CookieMumsters · 29/11/2020 17:52

A friend of DH shares a lot of wokeness on social media and has in the past admitted he doesnt always know all of the context behind it.

I would like to formulate a gentle response to this one. I dont want to fall out with him, just give an alternative view point.

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Wearywithteens · 29/11/2020 18:01

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Oxyiz · 29/11/2020 18:06

Ask them why transwomen are so scared of the mens room. What are they doing in there?

Oxyiz · 29/11/2020 18:07

After all, if women are "welcome" to the mens room then transwomen should be too.

Tootsweets23 · 29/11/2020 18:09

Jesus way to deliberately miss the point or what. I'd suggest that the new advocates of the urinary leash aren't so different from the old advocates of the urinary leash www.bbc.com/news/world-41999792

Thelnebriati · 29/11/2020 18:12

You could stop commenting at all on his posts, he is only doing it to get a rise out of you.

Tootsweets23 · 29/11/2020 18:13

Also, to be called creepy by a bunch of cuckoo men who have taken over the trans nest (much to the horror of people with gender dysphoria). More than a bit rich with their disingenuous "ooh don't talk about my junk" when their lives are 100% about sex and their proclivities.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 29/11/2020 18:15

But we don't want to pee with men... That's the whole problem. Transwomen are men. Cismen are men. All adult males are men. We don't want to pee with men. How is peeing with men in the men's supposed to be better than peeing with men in the women's? Morons.

As for "just hold it til you get home", that's what used to be called the urinary leash. It's exactly what we're protesting against going back to. Single sex toilets were literally invented so women didn't have to just hold it. If the men who wrote this had the first clue about being a woman, with the increased liklihood of not being able to hold it due to UTIs, pregnancy, birth injuries etc, in other words our female biology then they wouldn't say something so dumb. Or maybe they would, because misogyny.

Honestly, at this point I think not one of them actually understands what we're protesting against. That or they all just have one brain cell which they're taking it in turns to pass back and forth between them. Or both.

yourhairiswinterfire · 29/11/2020 18:18

I'd send him this. Not gentle, but the truth. We have no idea of knowing who is genuine and who isn't.

'Just need to pee' ffs. Tell that to the sexually assaulted female prisoners, and the young girl in the supermarket toilet, and the women in the refuge with the creep posing with 'her' dick out.

Another bloke dictating to women. Why doesn't he have a word with his male mates and tell them to stop making transwomen feel unsafe, instead of expecting women to provide the solution.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/11/2020 18:21

Also, to be called creepy by a bunch of cuckoo men who have taken over the trans nest (much to the horror of people with gender dysphoria). More than a bit rich with their disingenuous "ooh don't talk about my junk" when their lives are 100% about sex and their proclivities.

They are fully aware of this and it's entirely deliberate rhetoric. DARVO.

RealityNotEssentialism · 29/11/2020 18:27

I'd mute or unfollow him rather than commenting because a) he'll just enjoy it and b) he'll no doubt have lots of woke mates who will then also come after you.

334bu · 29/11/2020 18:42

Google Danielle Muscato

ErrolTheDragon · 29/11/2020 18:43

You could reply you weren't nervous until you saw that mentioning 'junk' and found out how many transwomen still have their 'junk' and that stonewall includes cross dressers as trans. And wow, do people who still have their 'junk' expect to take priority in women's rest rooms?

And then say odd to mention 'family restrooms', since there are so few, and wouldn't it be great if there were more.

Sweeetcornbananaf · 29/11/2020 18:44

I’d just block him to be honest, don’t waste your time x

StillAFeminist · 29/11/2020 18:49

I’d maybe ask him why he doesn’t want to ensure Transwomen feel welcome peeing next to him

TwentyViginti · 29/11/2020 18:56

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings

But we don't want to pee with men... That's the whole problem. Transwomen are men. Cismen are men. All adult males are men. We don't want to pee with men. How is peeing with men in the men's supposed to be better than peeing with men in the women's? Morons.

As for "just hold it til you get home", that's what used to be called the urinary leash. It's exactly what we're protesting against going back to. Single sex toilets were literally invented so women didn't have to just hold it. If the men who wrote this had the first clue about being a woman, with the increased liklihood of not being able to hold it due to UTIs, pregnancy, birth injuries etc, in other words our female biology then they wouldn't say something so dumb. Or maybe they would, because misogyny.

Honestly, at this point I think not one of them actually understands what we're protesting against. That or they all just have one brain cell which they're taking it in turns to pass back and forth between them. Or both.

Excellent post.

Intact men can take their 'junk' to the men's toilets where it belongs.

PotholeParadies · 29/11/2020 19:10

Why can't transwomen hold it until they get home?

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Defaultname · 29/11/2020 19:17

@PotholeParadies

Why can't transwomen hold it until they get home?
Or tie a knot in it.

(There's advice rarely given to women.)

StrippedFridge · 29/11/2020 19:38

I would post suggesting that it saddens you how men aren't doing more to make transwomen feel safe in the gents, how the TW just want to pee and are no threat to the men.

MondayYogurt · 29/11/2020 21:03

Restroom? What's a restroom? This is the UK, we have lavvies, the WC, the bog, the loo, and drumroll The Ladies.
"I just have to nip to The Persons" just hasn't got the same ring.

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