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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Forty years after the Ripper, women still aren’t safe'

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HecatesCats · 17/11/2020 19:53

In Leeds, the police prioritise 'managed misogyny' over locking up predators

Joan Smith traces a line from Sutcliffe to Holbeck's managed zone and analyses how women are let down by the criminal justice system. This is a tough read:

unherd.com/2020/11/forty-years-after-the-ripper-women-arent-safe/

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Gncq · 17/11/2020 20:16

Thanks for sharing

Fallingirl · 17/11/2020 20:18

The narrative that everything is now completely different, and women are perfectly safe, is infuriating.

Thanks for sharing, Hecarte.

ScrapThatThen · 17/11/2020 20:27

I too have been dumbstruck by the hypocritical handwringing of the police and media this week about how women were treated at the time as if they are more consistently listened to, believed, protected and treated as humans now. They are just not. Rape prosecutions and sentencing, the number of women killed every week, rough sex defences, recording male crimes as female for example.

TheQueef · 17/11/2020 20:29

PM to read sober.

HecatesCats · 17/11/2020 22:26

It doesn't bear scrutiny Scrap which is really depressing.

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JemimaDuddlepuckkk · 18/11/2020 02:23

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PearPickingPorky · 18/11/2020 03:47

@JemimaDuddlepuckkk

I think people are unsafe in general tbh. I don't think it's only women.
Do you think there are certain types of attacks that predominantly happen to women and girls, and are committed by men?
Dervel · 18/11/2020 05:16

Men are incentivised to be violent, I wish it weren’t so. :(

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HecatesCats · 18/11/2020 07:31

What are your thoughts on the article Jemima?

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PearPickingPorky · 18/11/2020 08:37

@JemimaDuddlepuckkk

Do you think there are certain types of attacks that predominantly happen to women and girls, and are committed by men?

I know men are the vast majority of murders and serious assaults. Think I read they're 4x more likely to be randomly attacked. Most women worry about walking around at night but they're far safer than men in this scenario. It's their husbands they should be scared of.

What about sex crimes, and intimate partner violence?

Do you think there might be something in the idea that women and girls are often victims of a particular type of crimes at the hands of men (and boys) and that society doesn't really tend to punish the perpetrators much, if at all?

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SunsetBeetch · 18/11/2020 13:23

Brilliant piece. Im really liking Unherd for interesting articles.

And now there is a Netflix documentary. I hope it treats the subject sensitively.

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HecatesCats · 18/11/2020 18:49

I'm a bit torn tbh, because rapists currently get away with some unspeakable things

Yes, they're getting away with rape:

Rape convictions fall to record low in England and Wales
Prosecutions and convictions have more than halved in three years while rapes have risen...

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/30/convictions-fall-record-low-england-wales-prosecutions

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Socrates11 · 18/11/2020 18:55

Netflix link is a trailer for 16th December. Julie Bindel is in it 👍

This is BBC, 3-part effort, looks like it's going out 8th December
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003m05

As you say Sunset hope they deal with the topic sensitively.

Socrates11 · 18/11/2020 19:02

The BBC documentary was released in 2019 so not a new one. Can't remember if I've already seen it! 😕

Flaxmeadow · 18/11/2020 21:55

Yes the BBC documentary in 3 parts, (The Yorkshire Ripper Files) was shown last year. Well worth watching. Sensitively done and very much from a womens perspective. I think Julie Bindel is in that one as well.

NeedToKnow101 · 19/11/2020 23:51

That series was really interesting; covers all the fuckups made by the police and the climate of fear women and girls were pushed to live under.

There is a interesting graphic novel written from the perspective of a young girl growing up around Leeds in this time: www.goodreads.com/book/show/25363212-becoming-unbecoming

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