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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jolyon Maugham's shout out to Joanna Cherry

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ArabellaScott · 01/11/2020 17:50

'@GoodLawProject is bringing some litigation to protect the rights and dignities of trans people; we've hired the legal team and sent the formal letter before action and we're just waiting for the right time to launch.'

  • from Jolyon Maugham's Twitter thread. He then goes on to talk about TRAs who have inspired him. In a last tweet, he mentions Joanna Cherry 'with whom I have a bottomless reservoir of trust and affection, that enables us to navigate our differences on this.'

Good for you, Jolyon, for taking that step to reconcile differences and show support for Joanna Cherry. I'm glad that you are open minded enough to discuss the issues from more than one viewpoint.

twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1322814751701901313

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Helmetbymidnight · 02/11/2020 13:51

I can't see bridges being built here - he's talking about himself as a cis male,Grin and 'it feels an important enough hill to die on.'

morningtoncrescent62 · 02/11/2020 13:52

Stand down, everyone. A little further down the thread Jolyon recants.

twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1322887717320036352

"I think, in truth, my friendship with Jo is a privilege I have because of who I am (or more accurately am I not) and of which I was insufficiently sensitive to when I tweeted. Sorry. Cf."

That bottomless reservoir of trust and affection turns out to be not very...bottomless.

Helmetbymidnight · 02/11/2020 13:56

He's such an arsehole! Ha ha. Of course he's recanted - all his new friends - middle aged TW - were going nuts at him.
"you've just ruined it by bigging up a rabid transphobe who wants to remove my rights."

Helmetbymidnight · 02/11/2020 13:57

Its comedy gold. Oh dear Jolyon, you need to recant harder and louder please.

Kit19 · 02/11/2020 14:12

So he’s back tracked - well colour me shocked 🙄 he does this every single time

He has a spine of jelly when it comes to this

Helmetbymidnight · 02/11/2020 14:18

alas, his apology is not enough for all the terrible hurt and distress he has called.
he needs to go away for a period of self-reflection. Grin

FloralBunting · 02/11/2020 14:19

I consider it a personal failing how much I enjoy reading Twitter threads where cowardly men who dismiss women get slapped down by transactivists and end up fulsomely repenting for their sins.

I should really feel bad about it, because it is bullying at the end of the day. I think I'm content to live with inconsistency a while longer, though, especially as Maugham has been so thoroughly unpleasant.

Helmetbymidnight · 02/11/2020 14:21

i am gloriously and proudly guilt-free amused by it.

FloralBunting · 02/11/2020 14:22

Latent Catholic guilt is such a curse...

WeeBisom · 02/11/2020 14:23

“My commitment to the trans community is real and not negotiable.”

Haha next they will be asking him to prove that commitment by breaking up with her by text. I would be so mad if one of my so called friends was on twitter going on about how wrong and misguided I was.

FloralBunting · 02/11/2020 14:34

The TRAs will be asking him to tear up a photo of her on camera to prove his allegiance next.

And after that, questions will be asked about further associations.

"Did you consort with any other disobedient women, Jo? It's important we know, so we can see your commitment. Otherwise, if you harbour affection towards these women, how can we be sure you don't agree with our genocide? You know there is no other option."

ArabellaScott · 02/11/2020 14:39

@morningtoncrescent62

Stand down, everyone. A little further down the thread Jolyon recants.

twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1322887717320036352

"I think, in truth, my friendship with Jo is a privilege I have because of who I am (or more accurately am I not) and of which I was insufficiently sensitive to when I tweeted. Sorry. Cf."

That bottomless reservoir of trust and affection turns out to be not very...bottomless.

What does that actually mean? He is privileged by who he is not? Eh? What has privilege got to do with being pals with someone?
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Helmetbymidnight · 02/11/2020 14:46

hes being an absolute arsehole- hes pretending that joanne cheery would hate him if he were trans...

ArabellaScott · 02/11/2020 15:05

Seriously? That's some weird idea of a bottomless reservoir of trust and affection. Why would anyone be friends with someone if they thought they were a bigot? And if they were friends why would they misrepresent and throw them under the bus like this?

Really confused.

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NecessaryScene1 · 02/11/2020 15:06

Given that she apparently manages to put up with him being Jolyon Maugham, I think it's a safe bet she'd manage to cope with him being trans.

(He presumably can't be this vile off Twitter. Can he?)

Helmetbymidnight · 02/11/2020 15:23

seriously- its a man dumping an old friend/colleague because he belatedly realised the tra wouldnt have it - there is no bridge building here. craven capitualtion- nothing more than youd expect from the fox-beater.

PearPickingPorky · 02/11/2020 15:42

He's an absolute idiot. Truly. I never want him on "our side", so I'm glad he's publicly recanted. Joanna Cherry probably expected this. He's such a shit lawyer too so I doubt Cherry is bothered, imagine a lawyer, a QC!, having to silence the all the opposition arguments rather than respond and debate them. He's an utter embarrassment to his profession.

RoyalCorgi · 02/11/2020 15:47

I think our friend the fox-killer is several farthings short of a shilling. This isn't a way that sane, balanced people beahve.

Coyoacan · 02/11/2020 16:05

He's such a shit lawyer too

I actually don't understand how he has managed to give the impression that he is a top lawyer, because he strikes me as not very bright as well as an extreme misogynist. I have been on threads where he has managed to totally ignore hundreds of intelligent women and only answer the odd man that posted.

littlbrowndog · 02/11/2020 16:27

I mean

I mean

Omg I have sinned

What a heretic.

Now fuck off joanna is what he wanted to say

ArabellaScott · 02/11/2020 16:48

Well, I'd be fairly sure he's not even in the same room as Cherry, ability-wise. But this is really odd behaviour. So confused, and apparently just lacking in integrity to a bizarre degree. Why bring Cherry's name into it, if you're just going to malign her a day later?

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Campervan69 · 02/11/2020 17:17

Oh dear, embarrassing for him. He's not allowed to have his own friends. Such a hateful lot aren't they? Their own worst punishment really.

Signalbox · 02/11/2020 17:24

Well, I'd be fairly sure he's not even in the same room as Cherry, ability-wise. But this is really odd behaviour. So confused, and apparently just lacking in integrity to a bizarre degree. Why bring Cherry's name into it, if you're just going to malign her a day later?

Grin Standard behaviour for Jolyon. The man's a tool.

ArabellaScott · 02/11/2020 17:27

Phhh. He seems to be studiously ignoring Tara Hewitt on the subject. Maybe he's one of those people who likes to see themselves as rescuer so long as his damsels don't actually talk or think for themselves.

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