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BBC making a documentary about savile

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StealthPolarBear · 14/10/2020 22:08

One of the many tweets about this:
Because everyone ignored the mainly middle aged women (eg the ward matrons) who kept saying he was dodgy.
There's a lesson here - listen to women who are raising safeguarding concerns.

What an absolutely excellent point

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IwishNothingButTheBestForYou2 · 15/10/2020 10:16

Isn't it creepy the way Savile keeps saying "a girl" when talking about his non relationship with a woman?

I only heard the short bit but wasn't he very defensive...

catspyjamas123 · 15/10/2020 10:32

Are you all sure “everyone knew”? His coffin was applauded in the streets by huge crowds at his funeral in Leeds. Did they all know but not mind? Hiding in plain sight might be more accurate.

FairFriday · 15/10/2020 11:09

There are always people who refuse to believe and those who believe that ‘it’s all lies’ and ‘we he’s be in jail if not was true’

RoyalCorgi · 15/10/2020 11:40

Are you all sure “everyone knew”? His coffin was applauded in the streets by huge crowds at his funeral in Leeds. Did they all know but not mind? Hiding in plain sight might be more accurate.

It's interesting, isn't it? Savile always made my flesh crawl. Quite often abusers are charismatic or pillars of the community but actually Savile always struck me as a deeply unlikeable weirdo.

When all the revelations about Savile started appearing, I hit upon an old Leeds United supporters forum (I probably couldn't find it again) where, the day Savile's death was announced somebody wrote a post saying how sad it was. And someone responded with a post about how he'd always hated Savile because his girlfriend had been a trainee nurse in Leeds in the 70s, and Savile was well known for sexually harassing the nurses. He recounted a story of Savile trying to molest his (the poster's) girlfriend and him punching Savile and knocking him to the ground. So LOTS of people knew back in the 70s. A few children and their parents tried reporting him to the police but didn't get anywhere. Nurses reported him to their hospital management but didn't get anywhere. So there were lots of people who knew exactly what was going on but somehow no action was ever taken.

Incidentally, I think the NHS is at least as culpable as the BBC in all this. I think they turned a blind eye because Savile was raising money for them.

FairFriday · 15/10/2020 11:57

Weren’t nurses removed from wards when he was going his ‘visits’ because they complained or asked that he was never to be left alone with anyone?

FairFriday · 15/10/2020 11:58

In fact - didn’t he have his own keys to stoke mandevil?

NervousInYorkshire · 15/10/2020 12:16

@FairFriday

There are always people who refuse to believe and those who believe that ‘it’s all lies’ and ‘we he’s be in jail if not was true’

Yep. Didn't he have the Monday club or something? Regular nights in with friends including policemen?

To the pp who met him in Roundhay Park, his flat was just near the big lake. I remember a friend remarking he was perma-close to the kids playground.

RoyalCorgi · 15/10/2020 12:24

In fact - didn’t he have his own keys to stoke mandevil?

He had his own office at both Stoke Mandeville and Broadmoor, apparently:

www.theguardian.com/media/2012/oct/12/jimmy-savile-broadmoor-volunteer-role

I believe they actually left him in charge of Broadmoor at one point.

Rosesandmint · 15/10/2020 12:41

There's a really chilling passage in Maggie O'Farrell's book I Am I Am I Am about him coming into her room when she was in hospital as a child, and the nurse refusing to leave him alone with her (he's not named iirc). I was struck when reading it about the way he'd made it through all the layers of protection that should have been there between him and the vulnerable child, and it was the nurse who stopped him.

zanahoria · 15/10/2020 15:29

"Didn't he have the Monday club or something? Regular nights in with friends including policemen"

yes but Friday mornings not Monday nights. It featured in the Louis Theroux documentary and they looked like a right bunch of shifty old boys.

www.theguardian.com/media/2013/feb/28/police-jimmy-savile-breakfast-club

The West Yorkshire Police investigated and found themselves completely innocent

NervousInYorkshire · 15/10/2020 15:36

Thanks - I half remembered it.

West Yorkshire police have a habit of doing that. Odd, innit?

ThinEndOfTheWedge · 15/10/2020 15:39

The West Yorkshire Police investigated and found themselves completely innocent

Indeed. I suspect the BBC conclusions might form a parallel...

nauticant · 15/10/2020 15:43

West Yorkshire Police ... the name rings a bell. Something else a bit dodgy. No ... it's gone.

52andblue · 15/10/2020 15:51

@AnyFucker

The fucking hypocrites

Yes!!!!

I'd like to cancel my License in protest re this alone.

RoyalCorgi · 15/10/2020 16:19

Roseandmint - I've read O'Farrell's book but I'd forgotten about that. You're right - absolutely chilling. And how frightening that it was left to the nurse to protect her. Bloody hell, it just makes you so angry, doesn't it?

As for WYP, they have previous. I'm amazed they have the audacity to show their faces in public.

HDDD · 15/10/2020 17:47

As a rule I'm not a fan of dramas based around horrific crimes BUT The Three Girls did an amazing job of telling the true story of what happened in Rochdale to an audience that maybe would not have watched a documentary on it. I'm glad they are making this.

DrDavidBanner · 15/10/2020 18:15

I always got that vibe from him too @hoodathunkit

There was a good comment on Twitter I noticed "Its like the Nazis making a documentary about the holocaust". The BBC are complicit in his abuse and I think there's still a lot we don't know about.

hoodathunkit · 16/10/2020 13:15

There was a good comment on Twitter I noticed "Its like the Nazis making a documentary about the holocaust". The BBC are complicit in his abuse and I think there's still a lot we don't know about.

there's some really disturbing stuff that I'll share later re Broadmoor

no time now

hoodathunkit · 16/10/2020 13:18

windy, twisty rabbit hole starts here

I have some important stuff to share about Broadmoor, going to have to be later though

DrDavidBanner · 16/10/2020 13:27

Wow, not got time to watch it all now, I'm on my lunchbreak but wow.

Datun · 16/10/2020 13:28

There is a poster on here who was one of Savile's victims. She wasn't believed either.

hoodathunkit · 16/10/2020 13:36

There is a poster on here who was one of Savile's victims. She wasn't believed either.

I never met Jimmy Savile but was abused by someone highly prominent and influential and not believed either. In fact it has happened to me with more than one perpetrator.

This is one of the reasons why I am so furious about the police squandering millions on investigating Carl Beech's ridiculous claims.

I do appreciate that mentally unwell people can have persecutory dellusions about celebrities and powerful people but I cannot understand why some allegations of this type get NFAd while the more bizarre allegations get insane amounts of money thrown at them when they could be disproved very easily.

to the poster who wasn't believed. I have been there and it is devestating.

DeliciouslyFemale · 16/10/2020 13:44

I know many people are going to think I’m making this up, but when I was a little girl, I was watching him on tv, on that children’s program he used to do (I don’t even want to use his name) and my father walked into the room. He started laughing and said that he was a ‘naughty boy who liked children’. He said it in such a way, the meaning was obvious. He, who was himself a convicted paedophile, was so certain about it and really got a thrill out of me watching the creep on tv. This was decades ago and we lived on a farm in NI. It still astonishes me today that my father was so certain, as if he had information. How did he know? I know he was friends with other perverted, but Christ of almighty how many of these bastards are in communication with each other? Yet, the BBC didn’t know? Bollocks, they didn’t. Child abusing bastards.

DeliciouslyFemale · 16/10/2020 13:45

BTW, this was forty years ago.

ChrisPriss · 16/10/2020 13:52

I honestly don't know any woman who did not find this individual repulsive.

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