BBC making a documentary about savile

[StealthPolarBear]

One of the many tweets about this:
Because everyone ignored the mainly middle aged women (eg the ward matrons) who kept saying he was dodgy.
There's a lesson here - listen to women who are raising safeguarding concerns.

What an absolutely excellent point

Wtf they're going to do a drama?!

BBC drama controller Piers Wenger said the new drama did "not intend to sensationalise these crimes" but "to give voice to his victims".

He said: "We will work with survivors to ensure their stories are told with sensitivity and respect and to examine the institutions which Jimmy Savile was associated with and the circumstances in which these crimes took place.

Really inappropriate and lacking in self awareness that the same BBC that allowed and overlooked JS abuse will be working with the survivors to make this drama. It's sick.

@Catiopea

Isn’t this all about the ‘drama’ of ‘nobody knew’ when it should be the fucking outrage that plenty of women people knew and nobody men gave a fuck until it gave them ‘woke points’ to?

Exactly.

Hypocrites.
And bastards.

Extremely disrespectful to the victims, if they want to explore why he got away with offending for so long them a drama is not the format to do it.

I've just read Louis Theroux 'S book. He has a lot to say about how Savile duped people and his regret at not pushing harder to get to the truth. Iirc he had a difficult time getting his follow up comiisssioned so this news surprises me,

I was a nurse in one of the hospitals where he was routinely at. My friend and I went to see the nurses home matron. He was pally with her so sat in her office. It was 10pm at night! My friend was complaining about her room. He started to chip in doing his stupid stuff and my friend told him to shut up. We all knew he was a pervert and he made our skin creep but you cannot say that all women knew because the matron in the nurses home facilitated his behaviour too.

He also once approached me and my daughter in Roundhay park and started saying what a lovely little girl she was. I pulled her towards me and told him to go away. That was about two months before he died. Creepy fucker.

About a week before he died my DH and I saw him sat with a female friend in a local Chinese. So clearly there were females that he duped too!

@Onedropbeat

The bbc were the people who stopped Jonny rotten from speaking out about what he knew about saville

He tried to get it out there and was shut down

Yes that is indeed the case. I said this before on a Saville thread and was accused of claiming a false prescience but he always struck me as deeply creepy and weird in a very unpleasant way.

I'm not saying I knew or guessed exactly what he was up to be he always struck me as someone to avoid and his popularity was bizarre. My husband , separately of me, thought the same. I'm sure we aren't unique.

When I moved to the UK I found him utterly bizarre, but friends and family thought I was being silly. He’d gotten odder looking as the years went by and by the time I arrived he looked a right loon, but I think the change had been slow so a lot of people were used to him. Also he initially became famous when a lot of men were openly quite creepy around pretty women, it was seen by too many people as somehow amusing & I think that was great cover for him. It didn’t surprise me in the slightest when the truth came out.

The BBC shouldn't be the ones to tell this story.

It's amazing how many thought he was creepy and yet he was still classed as a national treasure. Like others on the thread, I knew about Saville in Leeds in the early 70's. The advice was not to let the pervert near you.

He knew how to manipulate, which is a common trait.

It feels wrong that, having enabled Savile for decades, the BBC should then capitalise on its own mistakes for entertainment purposes.

Call me cynical but is this the BBC doing damage limitation before the Netflix planned documentary?!

Is the BBC actually making the drama, or have they commissioned it from an independent production company? I have been if the impression that the latter is how most things are made these days.

I was a child in the 70s. I ‘knew’ he was A Bad Creepy Man. My mum knew what he was (she didn’t say what but she had a radar that spotted many who later turned out to be Bad Men).

A child and a woman in her 40s. And the police didn’t?

@Ritascornershop

When I moved to the UK I found him utterly bizarre, but friends and family thought I was being silly. He’d gotten odder looking as the years went by and by the time I arrived he looked a right loon, but I think the change had been slow so a lot of people were used to him. Also he initially became famous when a lot of men were openly quite creepy around pretty women, it was seen by too many people as somehow amusing & I think that was great cover for him. It didn’t surprise me in the slightest when the truth came out.

Yes. I never understood his popularity. He wasn't funny or smart or warm. He appeared controlling and tightly wound. You got the impression you cold never veer from his script. All very weird.

I was also a child in the 70s and me and my friends all watched Jim'll Fix It and wanted to go on the show. We didn't like him but the kids got to do some amazing stuff.

A few years later I heard him on Radio 4 being interviewed by Dr Anthony Clare for In the Psychiatrist's Chair. It was an exposing show and Clare was famous for pinning people down and getting to the heart of issues.

However, even as a teenager I couldn't believe how Savile was manipulating the doctor and being allowed to get away with all sorts of nonsense.

It’s also ‘funny’ how nurses at the hospital the visited voiced their concerns, parents asked that he not visit their sick kids - there must have been so many other people who piped up - and so many who knew (not just suspect but knew for a fact) what a monster he was and yet they didn’t ‘catholic church’ him - they have him the keys to the hospital and kept him in his job.

Was no one held up to account?

Actually thinking - what did he know? It can’t all be about ratings?

I heard that episode SisterWendyBuckett and my conclusion was that Savile was even more dodgy than I'd assumed. It was chilling.

Ah, I've just remembered one thing that really set the alarm bells going, it was Savile's denial that he had feelings. The fact that I can easily recall that nearly 30 years later tells its own story.

Feelings - but didn’t he adore his old mum?

Here's an excerpt of that infamous Radio 4 programme where Savile says he hasn't got any feelings:

audioboom.com/posts/526151-jimmy-savile-dr-anthony-clare-radio-4

Wrong link, that's the part where Savile is going on about having the freedom to do what he wants.

Here's the part where Savile says he hasn't got any feelings:

audioboom.com/posts/526163-jimmy-savile-dr-anthony-clare-extra

The BBC are definitely not the people who should be making this.

I think it was pretty much open knowledge - there's a thinly disguised parody of him in one of Irvine Welsh's novels (Leeds replaced with Somerset, paedophilia replaced with necrophilia).

I think the reason he duped so many people was in part, though, that he deliberately cultivated a "complete weirdo" image, so that anyone whose spidey senses went off would then start questioning themselves: "Am I just being unfair about the way he dresses/his larger than life persona/ etc. etc?" I think he was actually dangerously clever in the way he played people.

But enough people knew that there was no excuse.

And let us not forget about who else was kicking about the BBC being lionised at the same time - Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall.

I imagine it will be just as hard hitting and meticulous as their recent documentary about Carl Beech (sarcasm)

cough

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