Crispin Blunt: Strident women's rights campaigners provoked trans people to be angry and confrontational.

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www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/after-his-furious-public-spat-crispin-blunt-liz-truss-trans-rights

From the article: “You've had strident women's rights campaigners... who have provoked trans people to respond often in an angry and confrontational way, and that is unsurprising because this is a central assault on their identity,” Blunt says.

Yes. "Look what you made me do!". The catchphrase of abusers everywhere. If only we'd done what we were told girlies, we wouldn't have been threatened with rape.

This article has some right gems in it. Apparently women just haven't looked into this deeply enough, not as deeply as Blunt, who has been on it since the summer.

“Unless you get quite deeply into this and think this through and have both the empathy and the time to get yourself into that place of understanding it's quite easy to think that there are real problems here about men pretending to be women in order to assault women. That men will seek to take improper advantage of rights afforded to people to take a particular gender identity for improper reasons,” he explains.

Karen White who, guys?? Blunt reckons women aren't at threat from transwomen, and men aren't going to pretend to be women to harm women. Either Karen White is a transwoman, and therefore women are at risk from some transwomen, or Karen White was pretending to be a woman, and therefore women are at risk from men pretending to be women. Maybe you should have done some more 'studying' before opening your gob, Blunt, that's not the only case of this happening. There's no acceptable number of women harmed before we say enough is enough. One is too many. Maybe try looking 'quite deeply' in to that, and the trauma sexual assault victims are left with in the aftermath.

My personal favourite quote is that some religious zealots are "manipulating" women's rights groups to stop people self identifying, because God wouldn't agree with it I wonder if he did this studying with a tinfoil hat on?

Yes. The unprovable deity doesn't agree with the unprovable innate gender identity over-riding physical reality.🙄

And really, no fucks given about the views of a man blaming women for getting rape threats because they just wouldn't shut up. Kiss my strident arse, Blunt.

Strident, assault....yeah, it's never the abusive man's fault, she always 'made him do it's and her words are literal violence that 'make' him respond in actually violent ways.

Blunt justifies like an abuser, down to considering himself as the empathetic one.

Just another man with zero respect for independent women.

Yet another victim blaming article written by someone who grew up with male privilege & will never be disadvantaged by this issue. Yawn.

Gosh, yes. Nothing worse than a strident woman, eh? We are womaning defectively.

Strident women Mr Blunt? You have no fucking idea.

“Of course there are threats, there is a threat to women from men. And women will have experienced that intimidation and violence… The threat is not coming from trans women. Of all groups of people from whom women might feel a threat, trans women are probably the least likely source,” Blunt says.

Is he living under a rock?

Representatives for Truss did not respond to a request for comment.

Shocked.

Tedious tosser.

Blunt doesn't much like women

Apparently women just haven't looked into this deeply enough, not as deeply as Blunt, who has been on it since the summer.

Oh dear
A strong contender for Mansplainer of the Year.

My personal favourite quote is that some religious zealots are "manipulating" women's rights groups to stop people self identifying, because God wouldn't agree with it I wonder if he did this studying with a tinfoil hat on?

Sounds like a bog-standard-sexist-arse hat with added tinfoil. Women with independent thoughts and opinions? Impossible!

@SisyphusAndTheRockOfUntidiness

Yet another victim blaming article written by someone who grew up with male privilege & will never be disadvantaged by this issue. Yawn.

Exactly. I'm a woman, I've suffered directly because of it and the way some men view us, which started when I was a toddler. Crispin hasn't got a fucking clue, he wouldn't even be able to begin imagining.

Campaign for trans rights if that's what you're passionate about, but he can fuck right off telling women what we should and shouldn't be worrying about, that we just need to educate ourselves a bit better.

I'm surprised there was no 'hysterical' thrown in there, that was the tone of it.

I think most people haven't got a clue in this area. Basically, we do not understand trans issues.

It's embarrassing.

I also liked rights aren't conflicting, just overlapping.
Maybe we just need to be nicer.

@DrDavidBanner

I also liked rights aren't conflicting, just overlapping. Maybe we just need to be nicer.

He knows. He absolutely knows. He just doesn't care.

And he's spent so long demanding women do what he says, he's absolutely gobsmacked when they don't.

He was incandescent with Lis Truss. He couldn't believe his bloody ears. She actually ignored him. And did what she thought was best. I bet she can't stand him.

And all these women who are so strident, and yet simultaneously, easily manipulated.

and that is unsurprising because this is a central assault on their identity

Well he got that but right; it is a central assault on women’s identify.

I presume that is what he meant...

It's TRA bingo. Women have no empathy, they're hysterical and over exaggerating the risks, they're 'aligned' with the US Christian Right (this one always makes me lol), they don't really understand because it's a bit complicated for their brains etc etc. He's been well briefed by Stonewall, but this is an appallingly one sided article and the journalist should be embarrassed for failing to robustly challenge him. It's just PR.

I'm just.......

Do you think they make these wildly ridiculous statements in the hope we'll just be too gobsmacked to reply?

Oh and at the time he didn't just describe Truss as lacking empathy but also as 'overburdened' because she has too many briefs. I doubt Blunt has ever levelled that accusation at male Tory ministers. I suspect that's because he doesn't expect them to bend to his will.

@HecatesCats

Oh and at the time he didn't just describe Truss as lacking empathy but also as 'overburdened' because she has too many briefs. I doubt Blunt has ever levelled that accusation at male Tory ministers. I suspect that's because he doesn't expect them to bend to his will.

Ah yes, and the old ''I don't want her sacked, just removed and replaced with someone else who won't actually consider women whilst in the Minister for Women and Equalities role.''

Oh for the confidence of a mediocre man. So 'well informed' yet unable to see the evidence, such as Fairplay for Women's sex offender statistics or research around sports.

"Blunt says he is dismayed at the talk of “balancing” trans rights with women’s’ rights." Yeah we can see you Blunt, as you'd much prefer to steamroller men's rights right over women's.

Well women are staying better informed than you and we're not going anywhere, not whilst men like you continually bleat about wanting to break down our boundaries.

Unless you get quite deeply into this and think this through and have both the empathy and the time to get yourself into that place of understanding it's quite easy to think that there are real problems here about men pretending to be women in order to assault women. That men will seek to take improper advantage of rights afforded to people to take a particular gender identity for improper reasons

How could "empathy" possibly lead one to the conclusion that it's not a problem if men pretend to be women in order to assault women?

Empathy for whom?

(paraphrasing my comment above which I've asked to be deleted. I think this is a very important question but it's probably a bad idea to answer it.)

'strident' ....really?
when someone shows you who they are, believe them

I wonder what skin he has in this? They ALWAYS have skin in it.

I remember when he stood up in the commons and said this effected 200,000 to 500,000 people in the UK, yet only 7,000 trans people filled in the consultation. Such a strange difference eh?

Oh and that's 100,000 suicides attempts (at least).

What a foolish, ignorant, pompous man. So oozing with bs even for a politician

I find it very puzzling when people with no apparent skin in the game, like Crispin, or Maria Miller, are prepared to make utter fools of themselves over this issue

calling feminists 'strident'. deary, deary me

i wonder if it's sunk cost. once you've started to believe utter bobbins, if you are the kind of person who always assumes you're right, you've got to keep believing that bobbins. otherwise you'd be wrong. which CAN'T EVER HAPPEN

I find it very puzzling when people with no apparent skin in the game, like Crispin, or Maria Miller, are prepared to make utter fools of themselves over this issue

I'm really surprised he's doubled down. His initial intervention was so anachronistic and embarrassing I honestly thought he'd slope off and go back to the under the radar, behind the scenes work, or come back publicly with something a bit more pragmatic. Seemingly not.