Dame Jenni Murray Mail Interview

[Mollyollydolly]

I bloody love this woman. Frankly, the BBC don't deserve her.
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8799931/DAME-JENNI-MURRAY-cancelled-BBC-adore.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-bottom

That is an incredible piece, so raw and honest. Good on her.

I just shared it on my Facebook. Just waiting on someone complaining about "uhh The Daily Mail" whilst completely ignoring the content. 🤷‍♀️ People love to shoot the messenger.

I've worked on and off for the BBC since I was 17 (1987) . Left many times too. It can be a pretty rancid place for women, was then, clearly still is.

Seems to me that the impartiality principle at the BBC is very far from impartially applied.

This.

What is the point of a programme for women that isn't prepared to properly address the most important issue affecting women's rights in this country? There are legal challenges ongoing, women are losing their jobs and facing rape and death threats and the government has seen fit to change its guidance to schools, so strong are the concerns about the impact on children of gender ideology. When a programme dedicated to women can't delve into these issues on a regular basis, without tiptoeing around the subject, inserting unnecessary 'balance' and indeed 'cancelling' a female presenter who dared to speak out, what relevance does it have? Jenny Murray'a rate of pay tells you everything you need to know about how the BBC views women. Especially when they've justified ridiculously high salaries for others on the basis of the presenter's appeal/status. Good for JM for speaking out, but she should never have been treated like this. She should sue, if she still can.

Yeah, bloody Garry Linekar for instance and what sort of use is he

@highame

Yeah, bloody Garry Linekar for instance and what sort of use is he

See also Jeremy Vine

I came here purposely today to see what people thought of this (and knew I'd find a thread!)

Brava, Jenni Murray. Hopefully now she's free from the yoke of the enablers she'll be able to speak much more openly. But I did have to agree with this comment:

This is awful news. A woman whose job was about women has lost her job because she knows what a woman is.

The likes of the BBC and the Guardian are making too many women's positions untenable. As is academia, and other similar roles with public platforms. Grauniad readers can leave in droves, and are, but it's a bit different with a state-imposed licence fee which makes you a criminal if you don't pay. And as far as the 'gender' pay gap is concerned, Diana Rigg fought these misogynists over 6 decades ago when she discovered she was paid less than the (male) camera operative on the Avengers. Because she was female she was lambasted as a mercenary (would they have said that about it male)? It's highly depressing that by 2020 the 'beeb' still hasn't got that particular house in order and that decent, long-standing broadcasters are being blatantly disrespected on account of being women.

Adult human women at that.

Interesting factoid

The Daily Mail website is HUGE in the USA
Them covering this and many, many other TRA stories will be trickling into the consciousness over there

It would be great if Times Radio wanted to have a stab at a programme for women with Jenny Murray at the helm. I'd listen. Don't really bother with W's Hour any more. Maybe they could employ Fi Glover too, a talented broadcaster woefully under-utilised by the BBC. Maybe even pay them the going rate, idk? 🤷🏼‍♀️

@caughtalightsneeze

That's a fantastic piece.

The comments below are rather depressing. Particularly the man who believes that medical inequality affects men, as women are apparently favoured in medicine.

The majority of the comments were supportive when I looked with high upvoting. The top rated comments are

Well said Jenni. You will be much missed

Personally I think that despite Jenni feeling like she's been cancelled, she's actually had a lucky escape. The BBC are going through very testing times and rightly so after 20 years or more of very biased views that are now being challenged. I think she moved on at the right time

Even the one you criticised called her an excellent journalist. It doesn't take a great deal of imagination to understand why he made the comment about medical inequality. Even if is incorrect it is definitely the case that cancers affecting women are far more high profile than cancer affecting men.

Omg, a Woman’s Hour on Times Radio would be amazing!

I haven’t bothered finding out what’s going on with Times Radio yet beyond thinking it sounds like a good thing but this would get me tuning in.

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel

Omg, a Woman’s Hour on Times Radio would be amazing!

I haven’t bothered finding out what’s going on with Times Radio yet beyond thinking it sounds like a good thing but this would get me tuning in.

I'm really enjoying it. Asmar Mir and Stig Abel work really well together on the Breakfast show. Lots of really clued up correspondents chipping in during the day. It feels live, reactive and fresh, also less afraid to tackle controversy. I know people will be resistant because it's The Times, but it definitely feels less buttoned up than the BBC. Also where John Peinaar goes, I go 🤷🏼‍♀️ I love his slightly languid, but conversational & engaging approach to politics.

I think this article is brilliant and succinct. This is a huge loss for the BBC and I don’t think they realise it.

Omg, a Woman’s Hour on Times Radio would be amazing!

That's one of those things that's so obiously true it immediately makes me think that the relative timing of its creation and JM's departure from Radio 4 may well not be a coincidence.

Even if there isn't already something planned, the Times would be foolish to not be trying to grab her.

I would think both Times and LBC would make offers - LBC desperately need more female presenters.

YY to the Times breakfast show btw.

Some of the comments are grim but the occasional excellent one gets through. Well said Louisa.

Louisa, Dorset, United Kingdom, about 4 hours ago
'Woman's Hour', where the actual definition of an adult human female has become taboo. It's half the human race who are effectively being cancelled; the language we use to describe ourselves, our sex-based oppression and even our medical issues is being constantly policed. I suspected these are exactly the reasons why this exemplary journalist has bowed out, and am very pleased she has openly stated her reasons.

Fabulous article Jenni. I read it to my husband and he said how much sense she speaks about the trans issue!

I do wonder if she's going to work for Times Radio. She would be a brilliant fit. And, I've got to say, since it started I've hardly listened to Radio 4, it's got off to a brilliant start and has some great presenters. I always used to listen to a mixture of R4 and R5, now it tends to be Times Radio with a bit of LBC.

I think she's been waiting a long time to get that off her chest!

Can't wait to see where she ends up broadcasting next.

The BBC really have behaved apallingly to lose someone of her calibre.

Agree with Errol it would be great for her to do an MN chat sometime.

I wonder what the BBC's position would have been about a presenter that publicly supported Self ID?

I think I can guess....

It's a shit show and I'm glad she's spoken up.

I can't get over the irony of the presenter of Woman's hour being both underpaid and banned from talking about the most pressing issue of women's rights today.

The double standards from the BBC are shocking.

Makes you wonder what the new Women's Hour will look like and who they'll get to present who will toe the line. Wonder if it'll just be a man so they can finally centre them in it all.

(Women! Know your limits!)

I love Times Radio. Serious topics but they let the interviewees speak and it’s not confrontational. I much prefer Stig and Aasmir to Today and Matt Chorley and Mariella are good too

@testing987654321

This is awful news. A woman whose job was about women has lost her job because she knows what a woman is.

spot on

I would definitely listen to Jenni Murray on a Times radio women’s hour programme. Ive always admired her and she comes across as compassionate, reasoned and intelligent in the mail article.
I already enjoy Asmar Mir and Stig Abel on the Breakfast show, who create a great relaxed morning news programme.

@Oxyiz

Makes you wonder what the new Women's Hour will look like and who they'll get to present who will toe the line. Wonder if it'll just be a man so they can finally centre them in it all.

(Women! Know your limits!)

my money's on Ms Thomas the Telegraph writer

my money's on Ms Thomas the Telegraph writer

Aaaaaahhhh