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So JKR can expect an apology any day now then?

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yourhairiswinterfire · 25/09/2020 19:29

Along with Maya Forstater, Rachel Rooney, and every other woman (and some men) that were bullied, dragged through the mud, deplatformed, etc for saying the same things that Mermaids are now saying?

Hopefully the screenshots have attached, but look at what JKR said compared to Mermaids. Any real difference in their words? Nope, the difference was in the way they were treated for saying the same thing. JKR got threatened with death and rape, accused of harming trans people/children and was subjected to the nastiest hate campaign I've ever witnessed whilst everyone stood back and watched, and some encouraged. When Mermaids said it, they got a pat on the back, and suddenly everyone has been saying this all along?

Liz Truss's statement 2 days ago was praised by someone who has been very against JKR. JKR could have written Liz's statement, they made the same points, yet Liz was applauded by this someone, JKR not so much.

Rachel Rooney's book aimed at children called 'My Body Is Me' was labelled 'terrorist propaganda'. The aim of the book was to help children accept and understand their bodies. To teach that no one is born in the wrong body. Why was she vilified if everyone supposedly agreed with her?

Maya Forstater's has been wildly misinterpreted. She lost her job and people are contantly accusing her of transphobia because she believes that biological sex is real (something that shouldn't even need classifying as a 'belief'). Her reputation has been damaged by people not willing to read what actually happened, and she has to deal with ignorant people on twitter regularly, falsely claiming that she deliberately mis gendered a colleague that didn't even exist. Everything Maya has ever said has been true, and confirmed by Liz Truss.

I'm just really fucking angry at the way women have been treated for stating the fucking obvious, and now these gaslighting fuckers get to change their tune and no one bats an eyelid??

Everyone involved needs to hold up their hands and apologize, but I'm not holding my breath. That would take integrity and a conscience, something seriously lacking today.

So JKR can expect an apology any day now then?
So JKR can expect an apology any day now then?
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Mummyoflittledragon · 25/09/2020 20:45

@PenguindreamsofDraco

Glinner deserves a bloody sainthood. He and JKR have been the highest profile casualties I would guess, although that is not to dismiss one iota the probably greater cost the lower profile and therefore more vulnerable people have paid. Has Jonathan Ross commented yet? His retraction annoyed me more than I can say.
I wonder when he will be reinstated on Twitter. Never maybe?
LassInTheNE · 25/09/2020 20:47

I saw this last night but it was like a copy and paste of someone else's post an hour earlier. I took the screenshot because it confused me as I couldn't tell if they were agreeing or if it was Mermaids with a pisstake bingo type lost of what gender critical people say.

Hope photo attached.

So JKR can expect an apology any day now then?
BrassicaRabbit · 25/09/2020 20:59

Quite agree, OP.

SunsetBeetch · 25/09/2020 21:32

@LassInTheNE

I saw this last night but it was like a copy and paste of someone else's post an hour earlier. I took the screenshot because it confused me as I couldn't tell if they were agreeing or if it was Mermaids with a pisstake bingo type lost of what gender critical people say.

Hope photo attached.

They posted this a couple of hours ago:

"Mermaids
@Mermaids_Gender
Do you still use the phrase 'born in the wrong body'?

We've been thinking about this phrase for a while and have noticed a lot of our followers have too. We've spoken to our patrons, staff and allies to see what they think!"

twitter.com/Mermaids_Gender/status/1309553254393548802?s=20

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/do-you-still-use-the-phrase-born-in-the-wrong-body/ "

So JKR can expect an apology any day now then?
TheChampagneGalop · 25/09/2020 22:43

Fuck this gaslightening shit.

TheChampagneGalop · 25/09/2020 22:44

Pretending to not have said what they said. What they harassed people over.

Totickleamockingbird · 25/09/2020 22:51

This is such an obvious example of how bullies only understand the language of power. Arseholes!
I had to leave a Facebook group due to the abuse I received there for very politely asking for the scientific evidence and data behind the TWAW shit of some of the posters.

TheHeartbeat · 25/09/2020 23:01

Certain people that heavily endorsed Mermaids gotta say something.

I’m eagerly waiting for it!

Siameasy · 25/09/2020 23:28

Fuming.
So SG virtually invented “born in the wrong body” to justify what she did
Now it’s “out of context” “simplified”
Every time we catch them out they change the story.

BatShite · 25/09/2020 23:31

Hmm, Mermaids total u turn on stereotypes is..interesting.

Siameasy · 25/09/2020 23:32

Apparently they were born in the right body after all. Nothing to see here guys. No one ever tried to trans kids. No one ever said anyone was born in the wrong body ok?!

growinguptransgender.com/2016/12/04/born-in-the-right-body/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Mammatino · 25/09/2020 23:37

They had been telling us for years that no one was born in the wrong body but we were too stupid to see it. Too stupid not to have read the countless “born in the wrong body” statements as “not born in the wrong body”. Thicko’s, all our fault.

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yourhairiswinterfire · 25/09/2020 23:41

They posted this a couple of hours ago:

Mermaids

Do you still use the phrase 'born in the wrong body'?

We've been thinking about this phrase for a while and have noticed a lot of our followers have too. We've spoken to our patrons, staff and allies to see what they think

Yes, I bet you have spoken to your patrons, staff and allies. I'll fucking bet.

Sounds a little like someone doth protest too much.

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ArabellaScott · 25/09/2020 23:42

Agree, OP.

Some people have got so accustomed to cognitive dissonance that they can't even recognise their own dishonesty, I expect.

Totickleamockingbird · 25/09/2020 23:43

I wonder how long till JKR writes something. Smile

Asterion · 25/09/2020 23:44

@ColleagueFromMars

I'm speechless to see that tweet from mermaids. Seems very unlike them!
They're terrified of losing all their public funding and contracts.
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yourhairiswinterfire · 25/09/2020 23:53

@Mammatino

They had been telling us for years that no one was born in the wrong body but we were too stupid to see it. Too stupid not to have read the countless “born in the wrong body” statements as “not born in the wrong body”. Thicko’s, all our fault.
I suppose it must have been our raging bigotry that was blinding us to what was ackshuarlly being said all this time. What a silly sausage I've been.

They might as well just come out and say ''it's actually been opposite day every day for the last couple of years, so everything we said is the opposite of what we really meant.'' It'd hardly make them look any dafter.

I hope this means I've seen the last of that fucking 'transwomen have the same pink, sparkly girl brains as actual women' opinion piece that's always posted around Twatter as 'evidence'.

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BertBox · 26/09/2020 00:33

Isn't 'born in the wrong body' very much the same disingenuous crap as 'assigned male/female at birth'? I'd like to see everyone try to delete that out of their twitter history.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2020 00:47

Isn't 'born in the wrong body' very much the same disingenuous crap as 'assigned male/female at birth'? I'd like to see everyone try to delete that out of their twitter history.

Yes, you're right.

ChakaDakotaRegina · 26/09/2020 01:15

Of all the frickin Gaslighting manipulative bullying asshat behaviour...

A: We never said that
B: Yes you did!
A: We didn’t mean it like that
B: Yes you did
A: No, you misunderstood because you’re stupid
B: No, That’s not what happened
A: Can you stop going on about this please, we’re just trying to help people
B: Which people?
A: why are you so against helping people? You’re so mean.

AvocadoBathroom · 26/09/2020 01:27

@Imnobody4

Do you think Susie Green's days are numbered? She's now a liability for an organisation wanting to maintain it's position as a reputable educational/health charity which Improves awareness, understanding and practices of teachers, GP’s, CAMHS, Social Services and other professionals.
Exactly this. I also wonder if Pink News and Stonewall will start back peddling too. Canaries in a coal mine.
EdgeOfACoin · 26/09/2020 05:26

@PenguindreamsofDraco

Glinner deserves a bloody sainthood. He and JKR have been the highest profile casualties I would guess, although that is not to dismiss one iota the probably greater cost the lower profile and therefore more vulnerable people have paid. Has Jonathan Ross commented yet? His retraction annoyed me more than I can say.
Totally agree. Graham Linehan has spoken out loads about this nonsense and has done for ages. I think he's suffered professionally for it too.
EdgeOfACoin · 26/09/2020 05:33

@Totickleamockingbird

I wonder how long till JKR writes something. Smile
I hope she does. It would focus the world's eyes on Mermaids. Are the TRAs in other countries still pushing the idea that you can have the wrong brain in the wrong body? I would have thought that they are. There's been enough 'science' about it floating around on the internet.

Also, didn't Emma Watson recommend donating to Mermaids in the wake of one of JKR's earlier Tweets...?

quixote9 · 26/09/2020 05:35

I am feeling so old. I didn't know if I'd live to see reality strike, but when it did I saw a welcome silence coming from these gumballs.

I didn't see them admitting they were wrong or the completely unthinkable: apologizing! they haven't enough brains or stature for that. But I did assume we wouldn't have to hear their drivel for a while. That's how things used to work in the High and Far Off Times.

Instead, of course, everybody has now had PR 101, never admit, never apologize, do a Kellyanne Conway always, and say you've always been at war with Eastasia.

I'm not even sure why that's the cherry on top. I despised them for lying before (because they know they're lying, nobody can spout such drivel and not know it). But now I just want to launch them at an asteroid.

quixote9 · 26/09/2020 05:37

I'm pretty sure in the US they haven't caught up to the new Newspeak. Brain in wrong body is so far the go-to explanation.