Nude Family swim at Stoke Waterworld

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Flagged up by Sammy Woodhouse on Twitter.
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Supported by who else but NSPCC.

Adults can buy a single ticket.

To Shut it down, Change petition here:
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Attended by convicted paedophile
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/4047602.convicted-brierfield-paedophile-member-naturist-club/

Unbelievable.

Ster my parents had your beliefs, please listen or are you going to wait until your DC become a subject of ridicule because one day they opened up to their school friends about how they spend their time or suffer as an adult later on in life dealing with their childhood? You have really given me something else to think about that my parents didn’t think they were doing anything wrong, maybe me knowing this has helped me not think less of them, despite what I was subjected to, they were my parents, I loved them but I do question their actions in my childhood.

My dad and step mum had no lovely lifestyle beliefs about the beauty of nature etc. I believe they just enjoyed the exhibitionism of it. They inflicted it on dsis and I simply because they wanted to.

Children’s boundaries and dignity just aren’t a consideration for many parents.

Anyone saying it’s fine, who wasn’t subjected to it as a child or teenager doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Society needs to step in with laws making it adult only

It's really fucking annoying when you miss posts by a few minutes and can't read them.

I want to know what was said.

Please PM me if you know - just the gist will do.

It's not that hard to imagine that paedos & pervs would love to hang out at a naturist event. I think the naturist parents on this thread are being wilfully ignorant. Reminds me of that saying about open minds & brains falling out.

It’s simply not the case that:

Children always know when their boundaries are being crossed.
Children can speak up even if they do know.
Parents are going to change their entire holiday plans based on the discomfort of one child.

@Bonkersblond

I want to thank you for sharing your story. It must have been incredibly difficult and I acknowledge how incredibly painful it was, and is, for you.

I stand by what I said in my previous post - it was unacceptable and it shouldn’t have happened.

I’m conscious that it was a very personal story and it may have brought up a lot of emotions for you. I urge you to look after yourself today and seek support form a trusted friend or family member if you need it.

The reason for my previous post was to acknowledge your deeply personal sharing - I didn’t want to shy away from it, I want you to know that I hear you. These are complex discussions and your story forms part of it and I wanted you to know that.

I’m saddened that your experience of naturism is a deeply painful one.

I hope I have also sensitively tried to convey that our experience has been very different, almost by way of reassurance. Just as an example, my children talk about naturism with their friends - it is not a source of embarrassment, it is not a secret - it is something all our friends know about and one we discuss if it arises.

Conversing by text and not conversation will always be fraught with ‘lost in translation’ situations.

I hope you can sense the sincerity in my words and that your story has not gone unheard by me. It will be a source of reflection for me and I thank you again for having the courage to share it.

@ButcherManWasSomeLady there were several posts in quick succession attacking @SterFran00 and her parenting. They were blatantly vicious.

@Handsoffisback there is only one person behaving disgracefully on this thread and it isn't Ster.

Ster - how old are your DC? I think that will make a big difference here, you talk about friends as ‘our friends’. Having older DC myself they go on to make their own friends, this is where the problem will lie.

@Bonkersblond

Ster - how old are your DC? I think that will make a big difference here, you talk about friends as ‘our friends’. Having older DC myself they go on to make their own friends, this is where the problem will lie.

They are 12 and 14. The reference to friends I make is their school friends. We also have a large group of friends who also have children which is what I meant by ‘our’ friends, so family friends if you will. And my children also have their naturist friends group.

@Handsoffisback your posts contained several direct insults, as well as telling Ster she was a bad parent and social services needed informing. You swore at her on at least one occasion.

Since I am the one who reported, I have records of the posts in the emails from MNHQ.

You were not just pointing out facts.

You were being thoroughly nasty.

@Handsoffisback

Are you not bothered about the fact she referred to abuse within naturism as ‘misconceptions’ though lockheart? For me that is the most offensive comment on here today.

No I am not, because that's not what she said. Try reading her post again.

They are 12 and 14 Then you really need to think about it, I had Naturist friends, ones that still live in our town who I can barely look in the eye if I see them now as I don’t want any reference to my past with them, we went on holiday with these people, our family friends knew about my parents choices, they weren’t all knocking on the door of the local naturist club, as for their school friends knowing, and not being a subject of ridicule, this is the one I find hard, your DC have told them, or was it a low mumble or discussed openly, is still discussed openly? What’s being said behind their backs? We all know kids can be cruel, not everyone will have the same values as you, I’d seriously question the ‘ammo’ you are giving these kids against your DC.

Anyone who thinks the average teenager, hearing their friend is part of this, would accept it and think it’s normal is living in another planet.

This feels like gaslighting. What’s so bloody objectionable about keeping swimwear on ?!??

I say again, anyone who wasn’t put through this as a young person hasn’t got a clue

Going back the best part of 40 years, I remember shouting across to a friend at secondary school about ballet class having changed times and she was mortified. Apparently she didn't want other girls to know she still did ballet aged 14 or so.

That's how sensitive teenagers can be to social norms.

Ster, another question, sorry if I’ve missed it up thread, did you come from a Naturist family or is this something you have got in to as an adult?

SterFran00

You feel like your DCs aren't uncomfortable at nudist events, having read the accounts of other posters on this threat who have said that they were uncomfortable, how do you feel about being naked around other people's children who are distressed about being there?

Thread not threat!

@Bonkersblond

They are 12 and 14 Then you really need to think about it, I had Naturist friends, ones that still live in our town who I can barely look in the eye if I see them now as I don’t want any reference to my past with them, we went on holiday with these people, our family friends knew about my parents choices, they weren’t all knocking on the door of the local naturist club, as for their school friends knowing, and not being a subject of ridicule, this is the one I find hard, your DC have told them, or was it a low mumble or discussed openly, is still discussed openly? What’s being said behind their backs? We all know kids can be cruel, not everyone will have the same values as you, I’d seriously question the ‘ammo’ you are giving these kids against your DC.

I will certainly take this on board, thank you. One of my children has discussions with friends about naturism and it forms part of their overall discussions about life, body image, growing up. The other has one or two close friends she has talked about it with, but they have different style conversations anyway. They both have good friendship groups and have not been subject to ridicule. The parents of their friends are the kind of families that bring up their children to be accepting and supportive of others, who they are, what they do etc. Obviously ‘behind the back’ stuff is harder but I imagine if that had happened it would have then come back round via name calling etc from other children. There is also the fact that children learn to discern who to share stuff with, same as us adults. The friends my children are close with and have shared with aren’t the kind that would use it against them or pass it on to others in a ‘guess what they do’ kind of way.

I notice you ask about how we came to it - I do share it back up the thread but just to summarise, as well as being open at home with regards to nudity, we came across a naturist beach when our children were little. From there continued to explore it both abroad and in the UK and made naturist friends with families, and discovered the places and events we like to go

There is also the fact that children learn to discern who to share stuff with, same as us adults. The friends my children are close with and have shared with aren’t the kind that would use it against them or pass it on to others in a ‘guess what they do’ kind of way.

So if there was another teenager at school who met up with them at naturist club and who didn't realise it had to be kept quiet, and who shouted it across the playground, would that be just fine with you? I can't imagine bringing my kids up with a hobby which I believed they needed to be secretive about.

@MandosHatHair

SterFran00

You feel like your DCs aren't uncomfortable at nudist events, having read the accounts of other posters on this threat who have said that they were uncomfortable, how do you feel about being naked around other people's children who are distressed about being there?

I’ve never come across a distressed naturist child, or one who’s body language or demeanour would indicate they were distressed. Neither have I met naturist parents who’s personalities and parenting style would indicate they were forcing their children into something. I am not responsible for all naturist parents, but I can choose to be a part of a community of those who reflect our own values and parenting styles. Naturists are not always naked. We wear clothes even in a naturist environment - if it’s cold, or just because we want to at that particular moment in time. Same for children.