I've just finished Troubled Blood and there is NO transphobia

[AviceCaro]

I've just finished it - it's very long and very very good - and definitely no transphobia! One brief mention of someone who might be the murderer might have worn a woman's coat to confuse his victims - it's one page out of 900! It's so not relevant to the plot.

It's such a good read, and really disappointing that it's getting so much negative attention.

Well knock me down with a feather. I’m more surprised you’ve managed to finish It. I’m listening to the audiobook and have also bought the book. Loving it so far.

I want to read it now - love a good mystery / crime novel.

The thing is, I've read stories and watched films about "bad" women all my life - child killers, serial killers, heck look at Kathy Bates is Misery - terrifying. They exist in real life, and art reflects life and examines it and stimulates debate. There are a myriad of novels depicting all sorts of people doing all sorts of terrible things. If I don't like a particular author or premise, I avoid it. I don't call for the books to be burned nor the author to be pilloried / cancelled / shoved on the pyre.

Maybe that's my privilege showing though ? Really can't be sure any more.

I think Farenheit 451 is due a reprint.........

I have the first book so will read that.
Do they need to be read in order?

@Norma27

I have the first book so will read that. Do they need to be read in order?

You don't have to read them in order but I think they are more enjoyable read in order.

The reference to the killer wearing a woman’s coat & a wig is a single small paragraph on page 75 in a 900 page novel. The telegraph deliberately mis represented the plot, prick news picked it up & made it sound worse, social media warriors went mad & now the telegraph is clutching its pearls in horror

Over one tiny paragraph

There’s transphobia if trans people say there’s transphobia.

If you say different you are transphobic.

A trans person is whatever they say they are.

If you say different you are transphobic.

If a trans person says that a character JK Rowling created is trans, then they are. And anything she says about that character is transphobic. If they say it is.

Do you Understand yet?

@Jellyeggs

There’s transphobia if trans people say there’s transphobia.

If you say different you are transphobic.

A trans person is whatever they say they are.

If you say different you are transphobic.

If a trans person says that a character JK Rowling created is trans, then they are. And anything she says about that character is transphobic. If they say it is.

Do you Understand yet?

It really is beyond absurd.

JKR could post a video of puppies and kittens playing together in a field of flowers, and there'd be some subtle transphobic dig in it 🙄

I feel awful for trans people who really are victims of transphobia. These activist idiots have rendered the word absolutely meaningless.

Is there any chance you fancy sending me a PM with the paragraph? Simply because my super woke young adult children are going a bit off the wall about this book - they even screenshot blooming prick news in our group chat. I'm the one who tends to let them rave then points out the obvious flaws and middle ground. So far it's worked well, they still talk to me and listen to what I say which is a bonus. I'd love another opportunity to calmly debunk one of these ridiculous articles. I'm not going to read the book simply because it's not my thing. (I already did the debunking of the pen name btw).

Here it is

That paragraph has triggered calls for a book bonfire, death threats and a Tsunami of misogyny? It really is profoundly pathetic.

Yep Bovary - beyond belief isn’t it

Kit19

It's utterly bloody insane. This article is quite funny about it:

www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/jk-rowling-new-book-troubled-blood-not-transphobic/

I guess that some fanatics are fixated on JKR and can't cope with her refusal to meekly submit to the new orthodoxy. She can write any plot she likes, she's an author.

Anyone asked what constitutes a 'women's' coat yet?

Can't work out if it's pro- or anti- trans rights to believe that an article of clothing can be worn by either sex.

At this stage JKR could publish an entirely blank sheet of paper & TRA would insist it was transphobic & hateful

Hahaha I love her

www.theguardian.com/books/2020/sep/17/jk-rowling-villain-womens-clothes-based-on-real-cases-robert-galbraith-troubled-blood

She’s already started the next book. She who will not be cancelled....

Even if the character had a GRC, it would still only be a fictional representation of the fact that males of all genders commit male pattern crimes.

I was once targeted by a nasty individual who decided she didn’t like me, it went on for a while and as we were both part of a sports club it became detrimental to the whole club because of the extreme way she behaved. I raised the matter with the group’s committee, but she had clearly got to them first, they thought I had been bullying her.

The thing was that even though I had done absolutely nothing wrong (as witnessed by everyone else) I was cast as a bully because in the committee’s words, “if you perceive you are being bullied then you are being bullied, perception is reality”. Which didn’t really give me anything to work with as her perception was clearly divorced from reality.

Somehow this feels the same. Someone somewhere has decided they feel the book is transphobic, and yet without any proof the fact they feel it is so is more important than actual reality.

Had a completely shit day at work. Started it last night. About to go into full "feet up/brew/book" mode with this one.
I am shocked that anyone would even think that some one would disguise themselves to gain access to victims. I mean, that never happens.

" Anyone asked what constitutes a 'women's' coat yet"

Pink with flowers on it

A woman's coat is presumably one cut in a half arsed attempt to match a woman's shape. Y'know, like the ones you get in shops.