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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bid to Change Sexist Definition of Woman

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gardenbird48 · 03/09/2020 18:41

has anyone noticed this petition on change. It starts off by saying that we want to remove the older, little used sexist parts of the definition/alternatives which include bitch, besom, baggage, wench etc.... ok, I don't agree with their point but nothing too sinister.

Except that when you get to the definition they want it replaced by (can you guess what's coming), they want to 'Include examples representative of minorities, for example, a transgender woman, a lesbian woman'

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TragicRabbit · 03/09/2020 18:47

I get petitions like this quite often. It’s a real shame because they’re petitions I’d ordinarily sign.

gardenbird48 · 03/09/2020 19:08

I think any sexist element is in the historical references which reflect the richness and age of our language if that's what you mean? - imo to erase them is to erase history.

We don't use them any more so I certainly don't object to them. If anything it demonstrates how far we have come (well until now - when we seem to be shooting back to the Victorian levels of treatment of women).

I think the real objective is just to get trans women in there.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2020 19:10

I think the real objective is just to get trans women in there.

I agree. And yes I also agree the sexist definitions should be mentioned as pejoratives.

SerenityNowwwww · 03/09/2020 19:11

That one has been doing the rounds. No it’s not what it seems.

MichelleofzeResistance · 03/09/2020 19:13

The problem is, that 'woman' is only sexist as a word when you think 'woman' should mean anyone of either sex and excludes male people from using their preferred name for themselves. Instead of being the word meaning the half of the human race of female biology, who are not something male people can commandeer, relabel and reorganise to better suit themselves.

Because this would be profound misogyny that tips over into male supremacism. And male supremacism is a bit..... well, not kind. And rather sexist.

LoeliaPonsonby · 03/09/2020 19:13

Bit transparent, innit? Once we started using dictionary definitions of women, the only thing they could do to force more bending to their world view is attempt to change the definition. Yawn.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2020 19:17

Trojan Horse

noun
1 (in Greek mythology) a hollow wooden statue of a horse in which the Greeks are said to have concealed themselves in order to enter Troy.

â—¦ a person or thing intended to undermine or secretly overthrow an enemy or opponent."the rebels may use this peace accord as a Trojan horse to try and take over"

Toseland · 03/09/2020 19:58

Please Posie, do that as a T-shirt!

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