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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mermaids are running the metaphorical shredders.

85 replies

ToriaPumpkin · 11/08/2020 20:25

Mermaids have updated their guidance om puberty blockers, now stating they are "believed" to be reversible.

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1293260663742136322?s=19

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/08/2020 20:28

I really feel for all the parents that have been mislead by Mermaids. How long until they are in court I wonder ?

Sexnotgender · 11/08/2020 20:30

Believed to be reversible??

Lottapianos · 11/08/2020 20:30

'How long until they are in court I wonder ?'

Not long hopefully. What a disgraceful bunch they are. Shame on them and all the wokesters who fell over themselves to crow about how wonderful they were

aliasundercover · 11/08/2020 20:47

Believed by whom?

Deliriumoftheendless · 11/08/2020 20:47

@Sexnotgender

Believed to be reversible??
By Meemaids, presumably.
Deliriumoftheendless · 11/08/2020 20:48

Mermaids! Not meemaids.

scotsheather · 11/08/2020 20:54

This will be as big as the MMR/Wakefield scandal in a generation or less. Possibly bigger as the long term effects sound far greater reaching.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 11/08/2020 20:58

Contemptible. Sacrificing the health and wellbeing of children to appease their ridiculous ideology.

Insertwitticismhere · 11/08/2020 21:02

Meemaids isn't far off the mark...

QuarantineDream · 11/08/2020 21:25

What I still work out is following that information breach last year (or the year before - can't quite remember now) how was it they even survived?!

It was one of the most egregious breaches of sensitive and personal information I'd ever seen - with the most basic Googling it was possible to find the names and even phone numbers and addresses of parents and children believed to be experiencing gender dysphoria. I honestly thought that would be the end of them.

Deliriumoftheendless · 11/08/2020 21:26

@Insertwitticismhere

Meemaids isn't far off the mark...
Memememaids maybe.
Winesalot · 11/08/2020 21:38

They really had no choice but to change their advice. Surely it should read ‘there is no or little evidence that it is reversible’.

This seems to be open to interpretation. It does seem like a court case waiting to happen.

NearlyGranny · 11/08/2020 21:40

'Believed to be' is like the Trump-talk 'People are saying...' Waffly, meaningless and dissolves if you look at it hard.

How do they sleep at night?

Annasgirl · 11/08/2020 21:42

I would contribute to a crowd funding effort for this legal case when it comes about.

LizzieSiddal · 11/08/2020 21:45

This is good news but if investigate/sued can’t they just say they were following the NHS advice?

Siablue · 11/08/2020 21:46

It sounds like they know they need to change their text on puberty blockers but really didn’t want to. They are still in massive denial.

Xanthangum · 11/08/2020 22:03

This is good news but if investigate/sued can’t they just say they were following the NHS advice?

Isn't that the point, that if the NHS advice is that they aren't reversible, and long-term repercussions are unknown... Mermaids have no superior medical expertise or experience. So are being irresponsible by not reflecting the change. But they hate having to do this. Hence 'believed to be.

CaveMum · 11/08/2020 22:07

Very interesting

FloralBunting · 11/08/2020 22:14

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Mermaids are running the metaphorical shredders.
Winesalot · 11/08/2020 22:17

Yes. My take is this is a half arsed change that has obviously been forced this far. I cannot believe that it will protect them surely? If the NHS states a more definite claim of Not reversible.

VirginiaComet · 11/08/2020 22:22

If puberty blockers are irreversible wouldn't we know that from their use to treat precocious puberty?

Binterested · 11/08/2020 22:22

I suspect they gave the NHS the line that they were reversible in the first place.

SheWhoMustNotBeHeard · 11/08/2020 22:34

@Winesalot

They really had no choice but to change their advice. Surely it should read ‘there is no or little evidence that it is reversible’.

This seems to be open to interpretation. It does seem like a court case waiting to happen.

NHS website says

Little is known about the long-term side effects of hormone or puberty blockers in children with gender dysphoria.
Although the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) advises this is a physically reversible treatment if stopped, it is not known what the psychological effects may be.

Then it lists other side effects. What I found interesting is that NHS is laying the responsibility wholly on GIDS service with the "GIDS advises" sentence. Does that mean the GIDS service is outsourced to Tavistock? Earlier today I had a look to see what the GIDS service was saying about puberty blockers but I couldn't get to grips with the website and had to give up.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/

FloralBunting · 11/08/2020 22:48

@VirginiaComet

If puberty blockers are irreversible wouldn't we know that from their use to treat precocious puberty?
Yeah, perhaps from something like class action lawsuit due to the long term physical effects, you mean?
Plumnora · 11/08/2020 22:48

Yes, I agree. We are facing a lost generation of young adults who want to de trans but have irreversible, long term side effects. I’ve long believed Susie Green to be a megalomaniac- you only have to watch the way she comes across in interviews- and I hope people start to realise sooner rather than later.