Damian Barr oh dear oh dear

[teawamutu]

I'm not applauding cancel culture, but grimly amused that this is entirely down to his own actions regarding Baroness Nicholson:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9af54daa-cdfe-11ea-979f-ba077cfea17c?shareToken

So, him saying those disgusting things about women of colour is evidence of some other people being racist?

It’s 1930s show trial stuff!

This article is no longer available - at The Times link.

So just ‘puffffft’ - no notice or even apology/retraction/correction? How off.

‘Odd’ not ‘off’ (or even oss).

Very odd - but they left the comments up

There is really a deep seam of unpleasantness in many of the people who so openly identify as egalitarian progressives. and they feel no shame, nor sense of irony, in revealing it quite openly.

So true.

I think it's mostly because a lot (most?) men - particularly woke men - are impatient with
a) the other half of the population banging on about inequality
b) they think that "women are equal now" (fat chance!)
c) they dislike being reminded that they are implicated in the oppressions of patriarchy

You can only say some of the stuff about the trans agenda if you seriously think (or don't think at all) that women as a class or category are no longer oppressed.

I guess they just don't notice the two women a week murdered, or the 15% pay gap, or the double load of work that many women do (particularly those with children).

they dislike being reminded that they are implicated in the oppressions of patriarchy

I wonder when a book is going to be written called Male Fragility that berates all men for being misogynist that will be bought in its millions by men who will then going along to anti-misogyny training to seek to reform their irremeedably misogynistic natures.

Yes, nauticant and the widespread nickname of "Brad" (to match "Karen") to sling at them whenever they step out of line ...

ooooh! I just saw some pigs flying past my window!

I think it's mostly because a lot (most?) men - particularly woke men - are impatient with
a) the other half of the population banging on about inequality
b) they think that "women are equal now" (fat chance!)*
c) they dislike being reminded that they are implicated in the oppressions of patriarchy

You're not wrong! However, I kind of understand the annoyance. If feminism becomes just another branch of identity politics then it serves nobody well at all.

I do think that lots of young people these days do tend to assume & think that feminism has done its job; and in most ways it has. the problem, for me, is that equality in law is equated with 'sameness', and so particular/specific female & women's issues are glossed over.

it is assumed that women are just like men. No different.

Well, @Justhadathought there you have the problem with "equality feminism"!

Remember the slogan of the 70s/80s:

"A woman who aspires to be equal to a man lacks ambition"

What I’d like is equal respect, as well as equal rights. Respect for my uniqueness.

The Damian Barr article still comes up on my App version. I have screenshots if anyone wants them. I am not sure I can put them here but anyone who wants them let me know on here and I will pm them.

@CatandtheFiddle

I think it's mostly because a lot (most?) men - particularly woke men - are impatient with a) the other half of the population banging on about inequality b) they think that "women are equal now" (fat chance!) c) they dislike being reminded that they are implicated in the oppressions of patriarchy

You can only say some of the stuff about the trans agenda if you seriously think (or don't think at all) that women as a class or category are no longer oppressed.

I guess they just don't notice the two women a week murdered, or the 15% pay gap, or the double load of work that many women do (particularly those with children).

I think that may be true of some of them, but I think a lot of these men simply don't like women very much and only paid lip service to supporting feminism because they wanted to look woke. Then along comes transactivism, and they can now abuse the feminists that actually centre women with impunity in their woke circles.

usual pattern Baroness Nicolson gets bumped from Booker - Damian Barr is charing THREE literary events at the Edinburgh Book Festival www.edbookfest.co.uk/the-festival/whats-on/andrew-o-hagan-heydays-in-the-hacienda
Nick Barley the director is @nickbarleyedin admin is www.edbookfest.co.uk/contact-us

sorry that is Nick Barley's twitter handle so if you tweet do make your feelings known

This is off-topic, but I'm getting totally confused - is the Andrew O'Hagan in the edbookfest link above, India Knight's ex-husband? Although his Wikipedia page doesn't mention IK or any children.

I can't keep up either but IK's wiki page says 'Her third child's father is author Andrew O'Hagan.[5].' so not married at any point... gosh small world...