The Guardian does it again: trans, gender, and sexism.

[Bmidreams]

I forgot how to cry as a man. HRT gave me a range of emotions I never thought possible

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jul/20/i-forgot-how-to-cry-as-a-man-hrt-gave-me-a-range-of-emotions-i-never-thought-possible?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Are they doing it on purpose??

Is it supposed to be sexy? Oh, the winsome little coquette!!

In beige? Nah

@ThousandsAreSailing

The tounge out photo is 🤮 Is it supposed to be sexy?

Seductive. Like women should be, you know?

When they’re not having a good cry.

That tongue out photo is weird and inappropriate for that article. No wonder no one is taking The Guardian seriously these days.

*The segregation has nothing to do with one's gender identity. Indeed, it would be meaningless to segregate sports on that basis alone.

I understand that the problems all this creates are difficult and involve competing rights, but the rights of millions of girls to have fair competitions surely should matter just a little, too.*

Not just a little, surely it's all that matters, or am I being unfair. I disagree that rights are completing. There is a circle here and it cannot be squared, no matter how 'kind' we are

I'd assume that any Guardian staffer who chose to publish the tongue picture is either secretly GC or similar in nature to the author and excited to be able to get that into a supposedly respectable hahahaha mainstream newspaper article.

The Observer's Science Editor, Robin Mickie missed a trick in his piece yesterday:

Like other fat old men I felt especially threatened by the arrival of Covid-19. This is a disease that penalises those who are male, who are overweight and who are getting on in years, after all.

And like many others, I became anxious when lockdown was imposed. Yes, I was stuck with being male and old – but my obesity? Well, maybe that was something I could change.

I’m just amazed they could bring themselves to publish the rugby article. Up till now that would be inconceivable pf them to do so. I wonder why the change of tack.

Not at all. It's all to do with the different sections in the Guardian having different editors. The article linked to in the OP is from the Australian site, which is full of wokies (just like the Guardian US).

The rugby article is by Sean Ingle, the Guardian's chief sports reporter, who has a record of impartial reporting on the issue of trans women in sport. See e.g.

www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2019/jul/22/current-impasse-transgender-athletes

www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/sep/24/ioc-delays-new-transgender-guidelines-2020-olympics

@NotTerfNorCis

Exactly. I always say if they cannot define 'the female gender' then how do they know that is what they are feeling?

The fact oestrogen makes this person feel more emotional isnt some kind of proof that they 'feel' more like a woman. This also happens to men withdrawing from steroids etc. Plus some women have incredibly high sex drives, or are not big cryers.

Also the article says it is gender stereotypes that cause men to suppress emotions, so how can this man-made construct be 'cured' with hormones?

None of it makes sense, it is all a mess.

and then they publish this too

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jul/20/beauty-boys-men-makeup-teenagers-cosmetics-industry

i must have imagined the 1970s and 80s where men wore make up then. does everyone at the guardian stop researching any history that happened after 1969?

its great that boys feel comfortable wearing make up but its not a new thing!

@Kit19, I rolled my eyes at the suggestion that teenage boys who wear makeup are 'gender fluid'. Also, the makeup industry is completely dominated by males - think of all of the high profile makeup influencers. Most of them are dudes. So it's not particularly trail blazing for a teen boy to get ahead in the cosmetics industry because they are whizzed up the glass escalator.

“With HRT, my sex drive has completely changed, and it’s joyous. I no longer feel driven or distracted by arousal. Nowhere is this more important than around my women friends. I can enjoy their companionship at a deeper level, as they share with me their favourite ways to be. I don’t fear that my body might betray me in their company.”

Creepy AF

I just read the blog by Cadance linked earlier. Not only is there confusion between the perineum and the peritoneum, but it’s basically one long fetish boast. This is the standard that The Guardian wants us to pay for. They have the audacity to put this sort of person along side quality journalists such as Freeman, Moore, Crace and others? It’s not a diversity of opinion, it’s a disparity of talent. It’s insulting to them and it’s insulting to us to expect us to pay for this complete, utter, shite.

No. Just no.

Ok, so now I read that he enjoys putting tampons up his butt - why on earth is the Guardian giving air time to an obvious fetishist?

The tounge out photo is 🤮
Is it supposed to be sexy?

I assumed they were going for childlike - the young girl they wish they'd been.

Oh but, allowing males to enjoy their fetish (even if that fetish is about feeling shame for being (not really) a woman) is all about empowerment and diversity. No thought that really these fetishists (and putting tampons in your rectum is a fetish unless you are soaking up blood in which case go to the doctor!!!) get satisfaction out of this public declarations so you are making everyone who reads a tool for that persons fetish enjoyment. Where does the media take responsibility for this? Oh. No. It has been doing it since semi-clad women were spread across the pages so I won’t hold my breath.

Technically it's not HRT if you are getting cross-sex hormones, though, is it? I think the trans lobby hides some tough truths behind the familiar-sounding HRT. Nothing is being replaced; it's being introduced.

That said, as someone who grew up in Australia, I can vouch for the harshness and toxicity of the cultural demands made on men, at least in the 60s and 70s. Most of the guys, gay and straight, that I knew who were halfway intellectual, sensitive and empathetic were planning to get out ASAP.

We didn't and don't need to change the people: it's the culture that needs changing.

Astonishing what passes for front page news.

The Facebook comments on the rugby article are mostly sane I'm pleased to see. There's only one claiming transwoman stop producing testosterone completely and are actually at a disadvantage to [cis]women

Well I guess they can present their peer reviewed evidence to the Rugby panel.

The author is very keen on 'bum play' and has replied on twitter today that people should be having more fun with their bum. Um..... they do realise that it is only males that have the prostrates that make 'bum play' a 'pleasure zone' and that, although some do, the majority of women (that the author professes to be) don't find it pleasurable.

The author does seem to lack self-awareness.

That said, as someone who grew up in Australia, I can vouch for the harshness and toxicity of the cultural demands made on men, at least in the 60s and 70s

It did seem pretty dire then I agree, however, I have not found it worse than here in the UK now (I have ping-ponged back and forth a couple of times now for long stints).