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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Action Aid - no such thing as a biological female

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Apileofballyhoo · 15/07/2020 16:48

Has this been posted already? It's from an email they sent. I saw it on Twitter so I'll be back with links.

Action Aid - no such thing as a biological female
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Standardy · 18/07/2020 13:28

The UK has a long history over the past few centuries of sending over privileged and crassly insensitive and superior people to the developing world to lecture them on their backward ideas and to drag them into the proper faiths

Yep, this. We aren't the only country guilty of it, but it needs to stop.

QueenAnnesHat · 18/07/2020 14:51

This appeared on my FB timeline this morning. Note 'people' who have periods. However, clicking on the link brings up a page on AA's website that talks exclusively about women and girls. Left hand/right hand?

Action Aid - no such thing as a biological female
SerenityNowwwww · 18/07/2020 14:53

It’s the 14 year old social media intern - it has to be! The visual says women and girls but the copy can’t bring itself to use the words. They just can’t help themselves can they?

Apileofballyhoo · 18/07/2020 17:03

People who have periods isn't even there to include FTM transgender people. It's to avoid upsetting MTF transgender people who might feel left out.

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FreddoFrogAddict · 18/07/2020 17:29

@Michelleoftheresistance

It's being said more and more plainly, to be 'pro trans' you have to be emphatically, wholly anti female.

Even mentioning women, at all, never mind caring about their rights, is anti trans 'hatred', a 'good' person hates and oppresses females. It's that insane.

'Trans rights' means the elimination of female rights. That's truly what it means. The more this is owned in full public sight, the better.

Your observation that, on the path we now find ourselves on, a good person hates and oppresses women, brought this Aldus Huxley quote to mind.....

"The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats."
Aldous Huxley

Coyoacan · 18/07/2020 17:48

I wonder honestly how long it will be before developing world people get forced to sit through first world white organisation lectures about gender ideology and the non existence of biology before being allowed to get the services/resources those organisations provide

I'm sure that is already happening.

The Zapatistas have had to sit through so many lectures on different topics from "enlightened Europeans, North Americans and even people from Mexico City"

Spero · 18/07/2020 18:08

@SerenityNowwwww

It’s the 14 year old social media intern - it has to be! The visual says women and girls but the copy can’t bring itself to use the words. They just can’t help themselves can they?
I am afraid not. It is policy set at the highest level - Maya went through all the internal documents in her blog post.
SerenityNowwwww · 18/07/2020 18:16

In which case - even if they backtrack, they can’t be trusted.

totalnamechanger · 18/07/2020 18:24

Thank you. I’ve cancelled a 25 year old direct debit.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 18/07/2020 18:26

even if they backtrack, they can’t be trusted.

Exactly.

Spero · 18/07/2020 19:42

@SerenityNowwwww

In which case - even if they backtrack, they can’t be trusted.
Sadly, I agree. It's clear evidence of the institutional capture which has been the goal for about 30 years now, so its well entrenched. I think our only hope is to keep challenging the legality of this; they won't be swayed by passionate arguments and threats to cancel donations, they just think we are bigots and They Are Right.

What this mass hysteria needs is a good cold bucket of legal water.

SerenityNowwwww · 18/07/2020 21:51

It demonstrates an absolute lack of judgement and common sense.

OldCrone · 18/07/2020 22:32

It is policy set at the highest level - Maya went through all the internal documents in her blog post.

And yet in their statement yesterday, they seem to contradict that by saying that they don't yet have a policy:

We take the topic of inclusion very seriously; however, trustees have not yet had the opportunity to discuss a trans inclusion policy in relation to the organisation’s charitable mission working with women and girls in the world’s poorest countries.

www.actionaid.org.uk/latest-news/actionaid-uk-trustees-statement-on-trans-inclusion

So who was involved in writing the trans inclusion policy that Maya quoted? How long has that been in force? Why weren't the trustees consulted?

Spero · 18/07/2020 23:33

I read that as them admitting they hadn't thought about how to reconcile their agreed policy with the work they actually do, not that they hadn't agreed a policy. Just not agreed the message.

Clearly the people responding to the supporters emails had been given very clear instructions and doubled down in their second response, albeit they didn't repeat the biology bullshit.

I think it's about a disconnect between what they see plays well with certain sections of the Western Woke and what life is like on the ground for women in poverty. I think they just thought they would get some woke cookies and plaudits, they weren't prepared for a backlash and empty platitudes is all we now get.

AnotherLass · 19/07/2020 00:04

I wonder honestly how long it will be before developing world people get forced to sit through first world white organisation lectures about gender ideology and the non existence of biology before being allowed to get the services/resources those organisations provide

I'd place bets that this is happening. Aid workers always spread their ideology. And gender ID ideology is spreading from the English speaking world, it's already been used to silence Indian feminists, and it's huge in Brazil

One of the worrying things is how much it may be used to further homophobia. I'm sure that these charities are working in a lot of countries which are intensely homophobic, and would be pretty open to the ideology that gay people are actually souls trapped in the wrong body

I'd really want to know how Action Aid is using this ideology on the ground. But honestly, I bet all of the charities are at it, now it is the fashionable ideology

DanceWithYourBalloon · 19/07/2020 08:53

People as far as I'm concerned can identify however they like and feel safe and accepted doing it BUT you just can't deny biology! I'm sorry but to deny a scientific fact that has kept the human race replicating for millennia is up there with Flat Earthers!

Diptheria23 · 19/07/2020 16:55

@Standardy

The UK has a long history over the past few centuries of sending over privileged and crassly insensitive and superior people to the developing world to lecture them on their backward ideas and to drag them into the proper faiths

Yep, this. We aren't the only country guilty of it, but it needs to stop.

Actually, looking at their website, I would say the Actionaid people working overseas (most of them locals) tackling FGM, sex selective abortion, rape as a weapon of war etc know perfectly well that biological sex is real. The problem seems to be with the UK based PR and fundraising types who know nothing of the real work their own organisation does and just want to please the woke crowd.
EmpressLangClegSpartacus · 19/07/2020 16:57

The problem seems to be with the UK based PR and fundraising types who know nothing of the real work their own organisation does and just want to please the woke crowd.

In which case the UK based PR and fundraising types are fucking their own organisation over for the sake of ideological virtue signalling.

Diptheria23 · 19/07/2020 17:31

Virtue signalling, avoiding the abuse from certain quarters that would come if they insisted on a straightforward definition of biological sex, and collecting funding from sponsor organisations who require them to tick the "trans inclusion" box. In current times, it is safer for any organisation - NGOs, schools, hospitals, media - to be seen as anti-female than risk being seen as anti-trans. We need to change that
cost/benefit calculation.

JamieLeeCurtains · 19/07/2020 19:33

These NGOs and charities could tick the trans inclusion box just fine and dandy by saying, 'You know what, we definitely want to include trans boys and women particularly in countries like Afghanistan and Albania, where girls and women present or are presented by their families as boys and men, and really explore the reasons for this in all these different cultural contexts. And, from there, explore whether terms like 'trans' have any useful historical and social meanings in these different local contexts, rather than 'trans' being the latest western colonial fad inflicted by our employees on the relatively powerless via a potentially ignorant misappropriation of poorly understood anthropological tropes.'

I live in hope.

JollyAndBright · 19/07/2020 19:39

Well that’s my monthly direct debit to them cancelled.

I’ll be sure to email them to tell them why.

SerenityNowwwww · 19/07/2020 21:07

I think they may have locked their comments on twitter. Funny that.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 19/07/2020 21:14

@EmpressLangClegSpartacus

The problem seems to be with the UK based PR and fundraising types who know nothing of the real work their own organisation does and just want to please the woke crowd.

In which case the UK based PR and fundraising types are fucking their own organisation over for the sake of ideological virtue signalling.

I'm a fiver at another large UK charity that has been Stonewalled.

Thankfully this bullshit hasn't seeped into our fundraising, but it's poisoning things from behind the scenes.

SerenityNowwwww · 19/07/2020 21:19

But all the money poured into trans rights - is there anyone setting up charities to set up separate facilities, or centres, health facilities (for their unique post-op needs), research into long term effects of drugs...

No- they seem to spend the money elsewhere.

littlbrowndog · 19/07/2020 22:27

Sums it up,this

Action Aid - no such thing as a biological female