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#OnlyFemalesGetCervicalCancer is trending on Twitter!

113 replies

SocialConnection · 12/07/2020 00:46

Twitter has decided that saying "Only females get cervical cancer" is hateful.

Twitter to ban tens of thousands of accounts due to this ‘hateful conduct’.

So now ... it's trending on Twitter.

Take that, Twitter.

mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23onlyfemalesgetcervicalcancer&src=trend_click

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JemimaShore · 12/07/2020 12:36

It's creepy as fuck. Like the transwoman who tweeted JK Rowling "you should give your ovaries to me." She's not going to "give" you her ovaries ffs. It's all Envy

andyoldlabour · 12/07/2020 12:43

Just had another classic tweet, saying transwomen who have had "bottom surgery" can get cervical cancer. Have any of these clowns got a basic knowledge of anatomy?

MondayYogurt · 12/07/2020 12:50

@JemimaShore

It's creepy as fuck. Like the transwoman who tweeted JK Rowling "you should give your ovaries to me." She's not going to "give" you her ovaries ffs. It's all Envy
I am absolutely expecting for a TW to purchase the discarded breasts of a TM at some stage in the near future.
Collidascope · 12/07/2020 12:50

Who needs a knowledge of anatomy when words can just mean any old thing?
Woman can mean man, female can mean male, a cervix can mean penile tissue, a vagina can mean a surgically-created wound, a period can mean a bit of abdominal pain, and probably cancer can mean a bit of an itch or some discomfort if that suits the agenda.

wellbehavedwomen · 12/07/2020 12:55

@andyoldlabour

Just had another classic tweet, saying transwomen who have had "bottom surgery" can get cervical cancer. Have any of these clowns got a basic knowledge of anatomy?
Oh God. Nothing like a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, is there?
Icantreachthepretzels · 12/07/2020 13:01

I recently watched someone's 'Hot take' on JKR (bad transphobe - reject all things Harry Potter or you are complicit - if you were curious) they started by claiming that 'no one is denying sex is real' (then going straight into sex being more complicated than we ever realised so essentially denying that sex is real).

Today we are being told trans men aren't female and so saying only females get cervical cancer is wrong and exclusionary (to put it politely)

Well ... which is is? Are you denying biology or aren't you? Pick one but for god sake be consistent about it.

Also trans men and NBs not getting invited to smear tests is a side effect of being allowed to change their sex on medical records. It is not proof that some males get cervical cancer. It is proof of the harm caused by the trans ideology.

However by obscuring who gets cervical cancer and who needs screening by not using basic language in order to pander to a very sensitive and very tiny minority, they do manage to exclude women with poor or no English - who do not know the word 'cervix' in this language and so don't recognise it as applying to them. It excludes women from communities where they do not get much or anything in the way of sex education and therefore are not aware of what a cervix is or that they have one (often women from very marginalised communities who may already be vulnerable for a number of reasons). They exclude women with learning difficulties who may not be able to parse out what the vague language is trying to tell them, or women with reading difficulties having to wade through a load of jargonish bumf whilst the letters jump around in front of their eyes. And it excludes perfectly average women who just didn't pay attention in biology lessons and have forgotten the word 'cervix'.

99% of cervical cancers are preventable and early diagnosis makes a world of difference. Obfuscating the language, pretending and refusing the words 'women' and 'female' endangers thousands of women.

Allowing people to change their sex marker on their medical records, and not giving proper mental health support for people suffering dysphoria so they don't access the right care endangers trans men and NBs. Not biological truth.

These so called 'inclusive intersectional' allies need to take a good, hard look at just how exclusionary they are being, and how dangerous their nonsense is to a far greater number of females.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2020 13:03

99% of cervical cancers are preventable and early diagnosis makes a world of difference. Obfuscating the language, pretending and refusing the words 'women' and 'female' endangers thousands of women.

Allowing people to change their sex marker on their medical records, and not giving proper mental health support for people suffering dysphoria so they don't access the right care endangers trans men and NBs. Not biological truth.

This.

Broomfondle · 12/07/2020 13:08

A) Leave people with DSDs out of this, as they have repeatedly asked you to
B) Female denotes sex not gender
C) If the 'affirmation only' approach to gender dysphoria leads to an increased risk of cancer going undetected and untreated in dysphoric people because they then can't accept their biological sex, then maybe you need to question that approach
D) Sex matters

R0wantrees · 12/07/2020 13:15

Neo vaginas are made from penile tissue, aren't they? So are neo cervixes also? I think what that link is really saying (very carefully) is "this is a bit of you which can get cancer, talk to your doctor and figure out your risk", not "you can get cervical cancer, get cervical screening". Of course that's not how it's being read or used on twitter...

Its a penis regardless of any surgery.
Surgeons who have used euphemistic language of 'sex-change' and 'neo vagina' have considerable responsibility for the consequences we now see.

PennyNotSoWise · 12/07/2020 13:24

It's a huge health inequality caused directly by trans-activists insisting on medical records showing them as the gender they identify as, rather than their actual biological sex. If your GP has you recorded as a man then no, you won't get calls for cervical screening.

This was what got my back up when Daniel Radcliffe waded into the row and declared that TWAW. He was responding to JKR talking about periods, which trans MEN and not women experience. But he didn't say shit about trans men. Their own community is excluding trans men.

TRAs are so contradictory. They pushed to be recognised as their gender and not their sex, yet it's somehow now the fault of us nasty women that they are being treated how they asked to be treated. But it's absolutely not a misogynistic movement. Not at all.

FannyCann · 12/07/2020 13:26

I'm amused to see so many outraged TRA's and NB's posting the hashtag along with their words of outrage. Don't they realise they are helping keep it trending? Hmm

FannyCann · 12/07/2020 13:27

Oh God. Nothing like a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, is there?

GrinGrinGrin

I'm shamelessly going to steal that one!

Aesopfable · 12/07/2020 13:37

So are neo cervixes also?

What on Earth is a neo cervix? Is it referring to the blunt end of a tube made out of whatever tissue a surgeon has used? Do they really think they have a cervix? If so why are they being lead to believe such rubbish?

Soontobe60 · 12/07/2020 13:39

@Broomfondle

A) Leave people with DSDs out of this, as they have repeatedly asked you to B) Female denotes sex not gender C) If the 'affirmation only' approach to gender dysphoria leads to an increased risk of cancer going undetected and untreated in dysphoric people because they then can't accept their biological sex, then maybe you need to question that approach D) Sex matters
This absolutely!!!
WeeBisom · 12/07/2020 13:47

My favourite tweet so far was a TRA spluttering “only females get cervical cancer? Not true, trans women get cervical cancer too and they are female!” Haha, but if they really though that trans women were “female” they wouldn’t have even needed to post this. It shows they instinctively don’t equate trans women with female.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2020 13:53

Haha, but if they really though that trans women were “female” they wouldn’t have even needed to post this. It shows they instinctively don’t equate trans women with female.

Yes, exactly.

Gncq · 12/07/2020 13:59

WeeBisom exactly! I've spotted that from TRA before, in fact Mimmymum of Mermaids has done similar

Person A: "something something about females"
Mimmymum: "Stop making it all about women, what about transwomen!"

Freespeecher · 12/07/2020 14:09

It was raised as a point earlier but I do wonder what the TRA stance on prostate cancer is. I'd rather have the hypocrisy of them still being tested as accepting a % of avoidable deaths in the name of 'the cause' would be terrible.

Cookies2523 · 12/07/2020 14:24

Twitter should be obliterated - it's dangerous.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 12/07/2020 14:42

I just had a look at that hashtag.
What I don't get is on there (and on here by the looks!) that people seem to be confusing trans women with periods?
It's nothing to do with that from what I can see.
More to do with trans men being included (as in biologically female) they of course will still get periods sometimes.

See the thing that really, really makes me angry is that men who transition to living as if they were women must know perfectly well that they are still biologically male, and have no need to be personally concerned about health issues that affect the female body

It's about highlighting the fact that trans men can have periods, not trans women.
On one of the comments I saw a trans man saying he was in labour and had been "read" as a male and so the fact was in labour at first had been overlooked.
Assuming hadn't known?
Awful Sad
Same with periods/ cancer - it's to say that trans men still have them.
Not sure why people keep confusing with trans women!

insideandout3 · 12/07/2020 15:06

Fools saying to doctors, "I'm going to lie to your face and with altered documentation and if you believe my lies then it's your fault for putting my life in danger."

Rubbish.

The problem is easily solved by not encouraging mentally unwell people to construct a litany of lies about their bodies.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2020 15:11

This is about being female. Even if you think TWAW and TMAM, you wouldn't have a problem with this statement unless you deny the reality of biological sex. FTM trans people will always be female. Female people who identify as non binary are still female. So only females get cervical cancer.

Winesalot · 12/07/2020 15:11

On one of the comments I saw a trans man saying he was in labour and had been "read" as a male and so the fact was in labour at first had been overlooked.

I’ve seen posts recently about transman delivering a still born baby because they did not know they were pregnant. It is heartbreaking. This seems to be an issue though of changing sex markers for health.

As I said before, there does have to be a point where a person is mature enough to accept the body they are in has individual needs and that changing sex markers on health records will result in dangerous risks being taken for the sake of fragile mental health that also needs to be addressed.

Surely, treatment therefore must be considered to be failing because people cannot acknowledge the needs of their body.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2020 15:14

changing sex markers on health records will result in dangerous risks being taken for the sake of fragile mental health that also needs to be addressed.

Yes, I think this is the heart of the matter.