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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cross dressers included in the definition of Transgender

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Dances · 06/07/2020 14:51

Was reading though old threads and came across this.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3401111-Crossdressers-included-in-the-definition-of-Transgender?pg=1

I think the issues covered here are STILL not generally understood. Many of the lobby groups have actively campaigned for cross dressers to be included in the definition of transgender. As Lang points out, cross dressing the the most common paraphilia in sex offenders. There is a reference in the thread.

This still shocks the fuck out of me. Why is this not commonly known? These lobby groups actually have written it down IN GOVERNMENT SUBMISSIONS.

How long will it take for this to be common knowledge? Honestly, it's a scandal

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ThinEndoftheWedge · 07/07/2020 09:01

Therefore by implication querying an individual‘s trans identity becomes potentially criminal.

Therefore facility staff, members of the public, etc won’t intervene/question when a grown man enters female changing rooms behind unaccompanied young girls.

I bet the rainbow police wouldn’t either.

Highly dangerous.

gardenbird48 · 07/07/2020 16:25

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross

I was so, so disappointed when I realised that Eddie Izzard - who I had previously respected for stating, when asked why he wore women's clothes, that "they're not women's clothes, they're my clothes" - has now decided that in fact he's trans.
whaaattt!!!! he was always so proud of the fact that he wore and presented whichever way he wanted but was still a man!! When did this happen - has he made an announcement?
transdimensional · 07/07/2020 19:27

According to Wikipedia (which uses "he" for Izzard):

Izzard is genderfluid[74] and calls himself "somewhat boy-ish and somewhat girl-ish."[15] He uses transgender[75] as an umbrella term. When asked what pronouns he prefers, Izzard said "either 'he' or 'she.'"[76] In the past, Izzard identified as a transvestite, and he has also called himself "a lesbian trapped in a man's body"[77] and "a complete boy plus half girl".[78] Izzard started to publicly identify as transvestite in venues such as the Edinburgh Festival as early as 1992.[79][80] His stance is that the way he dresses is neither part of his performance nor a sexual fetish. He said "I don't call it drag; I don't even call it cross-dressing. It's just wearing a dress. ... It's not about artifice. It's about me just expressing myself."[81] He remarks in his show Unrepeatable that "women wear what they want and so do I". He has expressed a personal conviction that being transgender is caused by genetics and that someday this will be scientifically proven, having gone so far as to have his own genome sequenced ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Izzard )

ListeningQuietly · 07/07/2020 20:22

Eddie therefore joins the long list of the scientifically illiterate

His Chromosomes make him a man (XY)
His genes determine his height, skin colour, eye colour, build
His epigenetic gene expression linked with external influences determine his sexuality and fashion sense

OldCrone · 07/07/2020 21:41

whaaattt!!!! he was always so proud of the fact that he wore and presented whichever way he wanted but was still a man!! When did this happen - has he made an announcement?

This is from 3 years ago. He describes his brave and stunning harassment of some teenage girls in a female toilet.

www.vulture.com/2017/06/eddie-izzard-memoir-believe-me.html

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