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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Andrew Moffat (No Outsiders) at it again

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CaveMum · 04/07/2020 20:00

Andrew Moffat, creator of the No Outsiders programme, is at it again. Publicising posters (that purport to show the protected characteristics) being sold to schools that replace “sex” with “gender”.

Thankfully his Twitter feed is full of sensible people pointing out the deliberate mistake.

Andrew Moffat (No Outsiders) at it again
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Whatsnewpussyhat · 04/07/2020 20:19

Funny that everyone making the comments about the Equality Act saying sex not gender are instantly blocked by Andrew and the other guy who I think designed it.

Of course it was fucking deliberate.

TehBewilderness · 04/07/2020 20:24

Are we finally going to find out who was responsible for all the fraudulent EA2010 lists of protected characteristics that replaced sex with gender that were circulated to the councils, schools, and businesses?
Women are still contacting councils and businesses when they come across yet another example of policies that misstate the law.

Distractable · 04/07/2020 20:37

Good to see that Baroness Nicholson is already onto this twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1279490584818917377?s=19

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 04/07/2020 21:10

We need to alert the DfE for them to advise schools. The teaching of Relationships and Sex Education becomes mandatory in September and many schools are ill prepared. This is the kind of material they will grab and stick up in their classrooms and foyers. Andrew Moffat is vey well known in Birmingham especially and his work on No Outsiders is widely used, most of which I support. This however cannot go unchecked!

truthisarevolutionaryact · 04/07/2020 21:14

Serious questions need to be asked about an educator who deliberately rewrites the law in materials for children, despite being repeatedly told what the correct protected characteristics are. What else does this man who is so keen to discuss sex and sexuality with children also misrepresent?
Being accurate and truthful when working with children is a fundamental principle. Why would anyone gaslight children like this? It's incredibly serious.

PumbaasCucumbas · 04/07/2020 21:17

So glad the baroness hasn’t been put off her stride by all the Booker nonsense, she’s made of sterner stuff Grin

TBHno · 04/07/2020 21:24

Isn't one of the main complaints against Moffat (by parents) that he lacks communication? He's well known for imposing things and ignoring anyone who questions him.

OvaHere · 04/07/2020 21:40

Journalist Shelley Charlsworth wrote about Moffat and No Outsiders previously

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

CaveMum · 04/07/2020 22:12

OvaHere yes I saw that, it’s an excellent direction of the programme, which is downright disturbing in places.

Oblahdee the mandatory teaching of RSE has now been delayed until summer 2021, but many schools are still pushing ahead with changes as they had already started on the path before the DofE announced the change last month: www.tes.com/news/coronavirus-schools-allowed-delay-sex-ed-until-summer-2021

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Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 04/07/2020 23:03

@CaveMum thanks for that information, I really didn't know. I used to work in the field but I'm obviously out of touch.

aliasundercover · 05/07/2020 01:04

He's either stupid or a liar.

NotBadConsidering · 05/07/2020 01:16

He’s not stupid because he put the wrong word on the poster, he’s stupid because he deliberately put the wrong word on the poster and thought no one would notice.

nauticant · 05/07/2020 08:36

I can't help wondering whether a charity, which has appointed itself to the task of educating about the Equality Act, writing out one of the protected characteristics in this way could be in breach of the Equality Act:

13 Direct discrimination

(1) A person (A) discriminates against another (B) if, because of a protected characteristic, A treats B less favourably than A treats or would treat others.

highame · 05/07/2020 08:42

Just a thought, but was the Baroness targeted at Booker because of her persistence in pointing out the law.

merrymouse · 05/07/2020 11:15

I can't help wondering whether a charity, which has appointed itself to the task of educating about the Equality Act, writing out one of the protected characteristics in this way could be in breach of the Equality Act:

Good point.

CaveMum · 06/07/2020 07:39

Isn’t this an interesting Tweet. No Outsiders have managed to correctly list the Protected Characteristics on their Charity Comission registration.

twitter.com/jo_bartosch/status/1279868385283710976?s=21

It’s almost as if they are deliberately misrepresenting things....

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Al1Langdownthecleghole · 06/07/2020 07:42

Good spot Cavemum

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 06/07/2020 07:44

I’m really very concerned about the influx of faulty information being fed to our schools. There are multitudes of organizations being given access to our children and young people and their work is seriously lacking in facts and some of it is downright dangerous.

Why are our head teachers not on to this? Why is it that an organization puts in a rainbow lanyard and they are given access to our children without schools investigating robustly the actual content of their resources???

HandsOffMyRights · 06/07/2020 07:46

His work is also promoted to neighbouring schools and trusts on social media by senior leaders at his MAT, then also shared by some very senior educators (including those covering Warwicksire, and we all know that LA's history with dubious school sex ed guidance).

ValancyRedfern · 06/07/2020 07:49

I want to email the charity about this as a teacher but I'm too scared to use my work email. I'm sure this means they'll dismiss me as a crank who isn't really a teacher. It's utterly maddening.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/07/2020 07:54

He's re written the preface of the NO book to include sex. He's lying.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/07/2020 07:59

He's teaching children lies.

SerenityNowwwww · 06/07/2020 08:51

What is his deal? He knows it’s incorrect and yet he persists. He has an agenda I assume. Who died and made him god of facts?

CaveMum · 06/07/2020 08:55

Serenity he’s an advocate of Queer Theory - smashing “heteronormativity” is the aim. If you read Shelley Charlesworth’s dissection of the No Outsiders programme there is some deeply disturbing stuff - talking about how teachers should be allowed to express themselves as sexual beings - to Primary school aged children!

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CaveMum · 06/07/2020 08:57

Beer the problem is that DofE have been very slack about giving schools full guidance on the teaching of RSE/PHSE. As a result these groups have been able to push their “guidance” forward as a way to help already overstretched teachers.

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