Just "came out" (as GC) to two friends...

[bluechameleon]

I didn't bring the subject up but when it did come up I went with it. Neither were particularly well informed on the subject but both seemed receptive to the GC POV. I was slightly concerned about Friend1 (gay male) but he was pretty supportive. They did comment on how much I knew about it so I think they thought I was slightly weird, but I feel generally it was positive and I did some good work furthering the cause. Are you all "out" to your friends?

Well done blue. I'm pretty open IRL and have only met two people who don't get it. The vast bulk of the population know that sex is real.

I started mentioning this IRL after Posie's epic rant was posted on here and when the GRA consultation was live, that was an easy conversation opener.

I did have a tendency to rant and shoehorn too much in at once, but now I have reined that in and just drop little bits in here and there when I can.

I am sure that people thought I was a bit obsessed and making things up at the start, but as more and more comes to light I think they are getting it. What is frustrating to me is the defeatest attitude of some people - mothers of girls no less - who say there's nothing we can do about it!

Not seent this before, Joss Prior's response.

Weirdly I feel a bit sorry for Joss having watched it

Came up naturally with my uni friends (all turned out to be GC) last weekend JKR came up in conversation with my local friends all GC too. Turns out adults I know just don’t believe you can change sex. In both groups there are some medic / science types. Was quite relieved.

You do tend to feel a bit tinfoil-hat when you talk to people who don't know anything, I find.

Push on through

You're right about the tin foil hat bit. I feel embarrassed about knowing so much.

Had a great chat about this with a friend and her 14 year old daughter the other day. It was great to chat to people who feel the same. She had started chatting to her daughter due to issues that have come up at school.

What does GC mean?

I am sure that people thought I was a bit obsessed and making things up at the start, but as more and more comes to light I think they are getting it.

I could have written that. People like my own daughter who thought I had suddenly turned into an unfeeling monster have slowly realised for themselves. I think they were ruthlessly manipulated. Intelligent people will get it but it sometimes takes a bit of time. That's my experience.

What does GC mean?

Gender critical

GC = gender critical.

I don't think it's mainstream enough, I had no idea about any of this until a few months ago. No one in my circle know anything about it, I've started talking to them and they all appear to agree but with not much interest.
JKR has shone a sort of spotlight on it but still many people take it at face value without wanting to actually look deeper into it.

GC = Gender Critical.

Gender being your internal sense of which stereotypes based on sex you feel more comfortable following.

For me, it also means accepting that boiology can't be changed - biology trumps gender.

I floated the idea at work and was suprised how many women I work with are also GC without really knowing or labeling it.

@FedUpAtHomeTroels

I floated the idea at work and was suprised how many women I work with are also GC without really knowing or labeling it.

Yep. "Oooh, are you a TERF too?" In tones of suppressed glee.

Didn't explain that very well!

Gender is what makes girls who like 'boy' things and boys who like 'girl' things be made to feel that they are doing something wrong. And sadly often viewed by others as if they are doing something wrong. That is why I am gender critical.

Be the man who wears make up, the woman who rejects femininity. Gender stereotypes are harmful all round IMHO. Your sex is still the same however you want the world to see you.

purpleboy

I agree that most people are still unaware of the issue, although I think it is getting out there abit more now. IME it has to be drip fed or becomes overwhelming. There is just SO MUCH to unravel. Once my eyes were opened I started to see the blatant discrimination everywhere.

Yes. I have a friend who is also GC and we barely admit it to each other, in part for fear of getting kicked out of the Labour Party.

Have no problem with people dressing and acting however they wish, but biology trumps gender and safe spaces are only safe when they are defensible.

Thanks for this thread, I now have a name for it. I'm also gender critical.

I'm not really out at work - very woke american multi-national, so dangerous territory.

Thankfully most of my friends - especially those with kids - are GC as well, apart from a few of the "can't we all be nice to each other" brigade

Shedbuilder

That wasn't Joss, it was Jess (Bradley).
Jess Bradley who self descibes as a 'Non Binary Transwoman' however that is even possible. I thought the whole point of being NB was to not identify as either sex and to be a transwoman was to be male conforming to stereotypes associated with females!

Yes, the subject has been broached, and everyone is of the mind that
a) adults can do what they want to their bodies, but kids are out of bounds
b) you can't just let anyone into everywhere - they prefer single-sex spaces.

I'm pretty much out at work and most people agree. My 20-something nieces and nephew agree too, although one of them used to 'be kind'. She had a tw lecturer too though and I think they used to go on about their brave journey a lot so that helped.

I came out to my siblings recently. My brother completely agreed with me but his dw and my ds were just reiterating the same "but they were born in the wrong body" nonsense. It came up because someone mentioned JKR and initially my 18 yo niece was like "oh you agree with her ", but then she listened intently to everything I said so I think I changed her mind. She's a very smart girl, so I'm optimistic.

I'm out to a lot of my local and work friends. I also come across as slightly obsessed and knowing too much when the conversation gets started, as no one else feels the urgency I do. But no one actually thinks anything other than sex is binary and immutable and you can't perform being a woman. All my friends have dc a similar age to mine and can forsee how sport, healthcare and residantials/clubs could be impacted by the current push

I do have one friend who I assumed would get it. I messaged her around the GRA and got a very terse reply that other people's need to be seen as a woman did not diminish her. We've never mentioned it again. She's bright and a mother, she'll get it soon and remember I tried.