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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So Eddie Redmayne is responsible for literal violence against TW.

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DrinkFeckArseGirls · 29/06/2020 20:50

www.facebook.com/netflixus/videos/585113292147850/?vh=e

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maudavery · 29/06/2020 22:06

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Clymene · 29/06/2020 22:08

And also, how is it that: we're transwomen and we are separate and distinct from men and women because of that and you are not allowed to question our transness or imply that we're in any way different from women?

Both those things can't be true at the same time. The cognitive dissonance must be exhausting

Melroses · 29/06/2020 22:15

Surely it should have been fine for a woman to play the danish girl then?

Thinks Scarlet

Hmm
NoCisAllWoman · 29/06/2020 22:15

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LiterallyProblematic · 29/06/2020 22:52

Oh what fun. I hope he apologise, and it’s not enough. Lovely.

PurpleHoodie · 29/06/2020 23:01

Men on men violence. Such a problem eh.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 29/06/2020 23:04

'a performance of femininity'?

Hmm
KaronAVyrus · 29/06/2020 23:06

I hope he isn’t bombarded with death and rape threats. Oh, sorry, I forgot - he has a penis so that won’t happen.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 29/06/2020 23:16

And JK Rowling might even have stepped in and defended him.....

Absolutely, hopefully not now

But Obviously if she does now step in and defend him i will be writing to the pope to ask if she can be sainted

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 29/06/2020 23:21

Would a transwoman want to play the role in The Danish Girl? Because presumably they would have to start off by dressing as a man and wouldn’t that be kind of triggering for them?

But in other news.... Luckily Eddie has a very powerful, very brave, gender critical mate called Jo who will totally come out to bat for him. Oh dear. Fucked that one right up haven’t you Eddie?

MsPants · 29/06/2020 23:30

So by these rules, can a trans woman play a woman? (In a film, I mean)

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 29/06/2020 23:36

Bahahahahaha! Live by the sword my friend...

(& that video was unintentionally hilarious)

maudspellbody · 29/06/2020 23:39

Oh Lordy. I was hoping someone would bring this up. I fell down an almighty head fuck of a rabbit hole about this the other day.

People were discussing who should be allowed to play which kinds of characters.

So it began with the 'trans people should have the trans roles' argument... because, apparently, it's not enough to be an actor - you should have the lives experience of the character you are playing... or some such bollocks. Not sure how that goes for someone playing Ted Bundy. Or a fish in Finding Nemo, but hey.

But then someone pointed out that that's not enough. Trans people shouldn't have to stick to trans roles. They should be cast in the roles of their gender too. Anything else is transphobic.

So there was some talk of what roles would suit different trans actors.

And I was trying to work out what this would look like. I mean, some trans women 'pass' when they are heavily made up and dressed up, but what if the film was a serious drama where a woman character was hanging around the flat in her pyjamas with no make-up on. Suspending disbelief would take some doing.

But then it goes further... because then people started to say 'well hang on. You say trans actors need to play trans roles because of lives experience, but you want to be able to play characters who might be called upon to give birth... you don't have that lived experience.'

And the answer?

'They're skilled actors. They could act it.'

Full circle, ladies and gents. Totally batshit.

Immigrantsong · 29/06/2020 23:41

Sweet sweet karma!!!

Mwohahahahaaaaaa!

ShinyFootball · 29/06/2020 23:46

Why the Hmm at performance of femininity, out of interest?

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 29/06/2020 23:55

Mumoftwoyoungkids you're absolutely right. Playing a man to start with has to be triggering. And NOT TRUE BECAUSE TRANSWOMEN ARE WOMEN.

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DrinkFeckArseGirls · 29/06/2020 23:56

MsPants absolutely - TW are more women than women. No problem there.

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ErrolTheDragon · 29/06/2020 23:58

because, apparently, it's not enough to be an actor - you should have the lives experience of the character you are playing...

They'd have had a far harder time casting Stephen Hawking than the Danish girl if that was a real criterion, I'd have thought.

contactusdeletus · 30/06/2020 00:00

Gosh, poor Eddie. I wonder how it feels to be mischaracterised as hateful and harmful, when you've always tried so hard to be an ally to trans people? I wonder how it feels to have put in so many months of research for a role, only to be told that he hasn't educated himself enough? I wonder how it feels to watch complete strangers question your motives and accuse you of having deaths on your conscience?

That must be terrible.

If only there was someone who could sympathise . . .

ErrolTheDragon · 30/06/2020 00:00

Luckily Eddie has a very powerful, very brave, gender critical mate called Jo who will totally come out to bat for him.

I wouldn't be surprised if she did, actually.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 30/06/2020 00:02

I wouldn't be surprised if she did, actually

Well i hope she doesn’t, I don’t really want to write to the pope

I’d have to use google translate and I don’t think google translate is that accurate

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 30/06/2020 00:03

They'd have had a far harder time casting Stephen Hawking than the Danish girl if that was a real criterion, I'd have thought.

Yep - and I do not approve of Benedict Cumberbatch and Keira Knightly playing Alan Turing and Joan Clarke. I bet they do not know the square root of 529. How can you play two genius mathematicians if you don’t know the square root of 529?

Ingridla · 30/06/2020 00:05

Poor Eddie. HahahahahahHAaaaaAA

Cattiwampus · 30/06/2020 00:12

He’ll just have to identify as trans and all will be forgiven.

ShinyFootball · 30/06/2020 00:28

He won't be allowed.

Not everyone is allowed to ID as they choose.

Middle aged women being an example.